- Wifi Built-in
- IEEE 802.11b/g/n support
- A maximum transmit and receive rate of 150 Mbps
- Supports both 20 MHz and 40 MHz channels
- Supports Infrastructure mode, Wi-Fi Direct and soft-AP mode
- Supports WPA, WPA2 (802.11i), AES/TKIP, IEEE 802.1X and WAPI
- A maximum transmission power 15 dbm
- Operating Frequency 2.4 MHz – 2.497 MHz
- New System on chip (BCM2837 reported to be 1.5x speed of previous gen)
- Chip is now 64bit ARMv8 QUAD Core 64bit processor
- MicroSD Card swapped out. Not more annoying spring ejection system that breaks.
- Position of status LEDs has changed (there is a chip antenna where they used to be).
- New power switching for 2.5Amp power supply.
What is the same:
- Same USB/Ethernet controller
- Same form factor
- Same GPIO
Source (with images): http://raspberry.piaustralia.com.au/raspberry-pi-3-model-b-c...
> Same GPIO
To clarify, this means exactly the same GPIO capabilities (no extras like analog inputs, etc), as opposed to full GPIO compatibility with previous generations?
Also, any idea when documentation for the new SoC will be released (i.e. the equivalent of this, for the bcm2837: https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberry...)? Said documentation could, of course, answer the above question, but I can't find any yet.
Massive improvement if that was all that happened.
From the engineer who worked on it:
> I reimplemented the original PWM-based 11-bit audio @48kHz as 7-bit 2nd-order Sigma-Delta modulated at 781.25kHz. The effective noise floor with this scheme approximates that of CD-quality audio DACs.
from the forums https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=1364...
You can connect the RPI to a dac/amp with HDMI input or a digital audio extractor. The best quality will be found by connecting to an HDMI to SPDIF extractor and then running that into a good quality DAC.
The nice thing about this solution is that you're not dependent on the horrible and CPU-sucking USB offered by the RPI.
I've since moved the music setup to also use HDMI (the DAC in the receiver is bound to be better anyway), but sheesh, be warned.
I've no idea if it's a priority interrupt firing too much, body diode current weirdness, or some thermal issue. And I'm certainly not going to keep teasing the fault to figure it out.
MicroSD Card swapped out. Not more annoying spring ejection system that breaks.
The CPU is Cortex-A53. Cache sizes reportedly same as on the Pi 2, 32K data + 32K code + 512K level 2. RAM still 1Gbyte 900MHz.
Sounds like you'll be find if you use the original 2A power supply and NOT connect power hungry stuff.
“Lastly, there’s an upgraded switched power source that goes up to 2.5 Amps instead of just 2 Amps - allowing your Pi to power even more powerful devices over USB ports.
Note: Our 5V 2A power supply still works great with the Pi 3. For most uses, you don't need 2.5 amps of power and our 5V2A supply should be sufficient.”
Still, it would be nice if they did make/source a generic USB wall adapter that can supply 2.5 A of current. Hopefully, this new Raspberry Pi will increase the demand for such a thing.
¹ — https://www.adafruit.com/product/3055
(And, if you compare with prices in stores that have it available, is actually cheaper).
It costs $35 and comes with ethernet, wifi, and a quad-core processor.
Furthermore, it's fully supported in linux.
That's terribly awesome for what it is.
A decade ago you had to spend 50x that amount of cash to get a laptop with those specs, without linux support.
No matter how you cut it, the Raspberry Pi 3 is not bad from any angle. At all.
Truly awesome, yes indeed .. and from my perspective, completely out of left-field. Fact is, this kind of evolution rewards those who invest in the platform, and is definitely a key indicator of a successful platform strategy, wherein the benefits of standardization and compatibility, applied along Moorse curve, results in the platform becoming more and more useful. Really great that they're able to maintain the price-point, the form-factor, GPIO compatibility, and so on; all the while pushing the platform into "workstation-class" territory, bit by bit.
The only thing that would make it better .. truly, the only thing .. is if we had the ability to go up to 16gigs of RAM. RAM is lacking, but still the machine is awesome. (I'll just assume that the next $35 investment in the rPi dream that I'll make, will fix this issue..)
I've ordered rPi 3, I'm a true believer, for it to sit atop a bundle of stacks of every other rPi released so far .. and, it seems, the rPi revolution is beneficial to everyone.
I mean, this class of workstation device, for a Linux desktop system, for .. ~$50 worth of investment .. phenomenal!
I hope we see more stuff like this, and it forces the mobile power-horses to re-consider bundling the compiler onboard.
Fun Fact: with this new rev of rPi, I can develop software for the fleet-of-rPi's like never before, i.e. it'll be usable enough to just ditch the cross-compiler and other bunk needed to maintain dominance in a tech-soaked garden of various walls, smokes and mirrors .. so instead of giving my customers an App-store link this year, I think I'll just put the working system in the mail.
Yeah, I keep thinking about how a tiny device with oodles of RAM would be such a killer Redis or static asset server. Or even a killer database server, for read-heavy loads.
Although am not even sure if that would be possible in the near future - for SoC's like the BCM2837, the RAM is on the same chip as the CPU+GPU, right? I don't even know if it would be feasible to build gobs of RAM into a package like that.
Of course, RPi's are still freaking awesome, and I am happy they exist.
There is apparently an architectural limit in the Videocore 4 that limits it to 1Gbyte.
The C2 goes on sale in like one or two days for $40. (edit: You can buy in now on HK's website.) Kind of a childish move for the RPi Foundation to be making so much noise about their new board right now, actually. (edit: Okay, benbenben makes a fair and accurate point. Several boards, including the first, have been released at the end of February.)
* Not entirely just like. It's an Amlogic chip instead of Broadcom or Allwinner. Amlogic is one of the few without blatant GPL abuse.
It's their fourth birthday, a pretty good time to release a new/updated product, no?
That's not all that much of a differentiator. The Banana Pi Pro only costs $12.89 more on Amazon. It doesn't have built-in wifi and it's dual- instead of quad-core, but it does have real SATA and better video. If I weren't perfectly happy with the Odroid U3 I've been using as a Linux desktop for the last couple of years, I'd probably lean toward that instead of the RP3, but that's not the point. The point is that SATA would be a nice addition, and not unreasonable at this approximate price point, even if the RP3 is already awesome.
I was wrong. Horrible support, 2 of the usb ports never worked. The community is non existent compared to rpi.
# dd if=/dev/zero of=6G bs=1M count=6144
6144+0 records in
6144+0 records out
6442450944 bytes (6.4 GB) copied, 136.176 s, 47.3 MB/s
# dd if=6G of=/dev/null bs=1M
6442450944 bytes (6.4 GB) copied, 93.6363 s, 68.8 MB/s
Also they have a nice battery connector, they'll keep the battery charged and switch to it if main power fails (and even keep the SATA drive powered (not sure if you plug a 3.5" one, though)).
If a board with SATA 3.0 existed, that is still just 600MB/s.
ps: wanted to say the rpi team seems very smart in the regularity and smoothness of their product delivery. A nice amount of changes, same price point, reusable form factor, cute surprise annoucements (pizero). Kudos for that.
This portion of the article makes it sound like they have written off C.H.I.P. as a non starter.
I actually received my CHIP back in early January, along with most of the campaign contributors. People are using CHIP today and making things with it. For those that ordered around "black friday" on the getchip.com site, those are expected to ship in June (I have a second order in through there), but the early Kickstarter ones have shipped. They also have more shipping each month.
I'm waiting for mind to ship.
He also talks a little about his ideas for future versions of the board.
How is that, since Pine64 will have same CPU, plus 2GB of RAM, and Gbit ethernet.
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Having an (almost) complete PC for $35 with WiFi and the rest of its features is something amazing that seems to be quite normal. It amazes (and saddens) me how most people is unimpressed by this.
Where we are... compared to 20... 30... 40... years ago? Mind boggling.
I'll probably actually buy a Pi 3 (or 2... or 3) with this release because I've been wanting some for awhile.
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Strangely enough, one of the RPi2s I bought last week was DOA (wouldn't boot off a card that worked on an identical Pi2; red/green LEDs just stayed solid).. So, how convenient!
Yes. The full recommendation reads "This time round, we’re recommending a 2.5A adapter if you want to connect power-hungry USB devices to the Raspberry Pi."
So I guess the assumption is the average person won't connect power-hungry USB devices to their Pi 3.
Other fun tech: Node.js on the Pis, NaCl for all crypto, TypeScript on the server (and Node.js), Stripe for handling payments, GraphQL for query handling for the iOS clients, and we used QR code display and reading to distribute public keys during setup. The Bluetooth LE data transfer code between Node.js and iOS was also a nice bit of work by my friend Erik van der Tier in the Netherlands.
 (Warning: autoplay.) http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2016/02/10/nike-snkrs-xpress-to...
What more details could you possibly want? He's gone above and beyond in sharing.
Doesn't do H.265, sadly. I wonder if the new one will...
EDIT: Ars Technica says "yes". "The new Pi also gains H.265 support for the first time but is limited to 1080p at 30fps."
I've another one for several years as an SSH jump host that runs Screen, Ansible. Rock solid.
Now that the Ethernet port and WiFi are on separate buses, I'm looking to test RPi3 as a home firewall.
A project that's been in my backlog is to setup a stratum 1 NTP server. This is pretty easy now with much better GPS modules available as compared to what was available 4 years ago.
hook it up to your garage door, your lights, whatever!
And it is PASSIVELY cooled!
So is every phone. The fact that it's $35 is the impressive part.
Not to mention that I2S sound is far less workload on the CPU than USB sound.
Oh, and why doesn't the Wifi/BT antenna have an SMA connector for external antennas, e.g. directional antennas?!
Now if one could repurpose another 2 GPIO pins for bit-banging I2s... there are chips which support multichannel, see http://www.ti.com/lit/an/snla221/snla221.pdf page 5.
Last I read Raspberry Pi should allow for 5.1 hdmi passthrough or at least DTS.
That said, rpi3 is an even more amazing piece of hardware and a harbinger of the final death of the home PCs that are not gaming desktops or workstations (not that we really needed a harbinger at this point).
But all is not lost, the RPi2 is quite performant and I'd still wait on early adopters to report on potential overheating when under a heavy workload. RPi3 Might be approaching the higher-end ODROID (XU3/4) in cooling fan necessity.
I got my B+ and about two months later, the 2 was released.
I got a 2 and about two months later, the 3 was released.
I should hurry up and buy the 3.
From the pictures, it seems there is no visibly added component from rpi2 to rpi3, so I guess wifi could be added on the rpi0 ?
I mean wifi is really all I need, I don't need to plug so much USB peripherals or ethernet to such a computer, since everything can be done in SSH.
We really live in wonderful times. I wonder if the RPi foundation will get enough momentum to even build some more advanced stuff like a cheap laptop. That's the only missing link to this awesome project. There already is a touchscreen, but I can't see solutions with a clean casing that can include a screen and a smallish keyboard.
Compared to the RPi3, this extra 5USD gets you gigabit ethernet, 2GB DDR3, higher clock speed, and HDMI 2.0 capable of 4K60.
I'll be getting a C2.
Does anyone know if the USB ports are fully powered on the C2? As I can power a USB HDD from the USB port on the XU4 (this is a big thing for me as it saves another power source).
> There's scope for something very powerful (almost PC-like) in the $70 price range. If I was starting a new venture today, this is where I'd aim.
There is very powerful project like Bunnie Huang's Novena , but just the board will cost $550.
So the Raspberry Pi is four years old... (according to the article)
I prefer to buy a kit.
They list RPi 3 kit , but it's just list of old and new items, so it's not very clear.
You need a MicroSD card at least 8GB in size, although larger is always nicer. Since it's the main storage for the device, faster is better.
An ethernet cable, if you don't plan on exclusively using wireless.
A case: the Pi3 is the same layout as the Pi2, so a previous-generation case will be fine.
An HDMI cable, if you won't be using it exclusively headlessly (or a cable with TRRS on one end and red+yellow+white RCA connections on the other end, if you're going the analog route).
A USB or bluetooth keyboard and mouse.
That would be my shopping list, if I didn't have those things laying around at home.
That would be awesome-er
This chipset is supported by the open-source brcmfmac driver is available from the brcm80211 module of the linux kernel package, maintained upstream by the linux kernel community (source https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx)
Either way, it's not really that interesting since you cannot boot the Rapsberry Pi without proprietary blobs anyway. I guess the important thing is that it'll work out out the box.
Mine craft runs anywhere
So for now it is a "64 bit" system on paper only?
As the RasPi foundation investigates this "over the next few months" there will inevitably be other people who release 64 bit builds for anyone who needs the extra oomph.
As much as I love the work the guys behind that have done, is the move to a native Debian distro for this architecture hamstrung by specifications, or something else?
Sure you can recompile, but docker/sandstorm.io/etc type binary packages would be nice to run as-is.
"The new Pi also gains H.265 support for the first time but is limited to 1080p at 30fps."
Any other suggestions on hackable and cheap H265 capable machines?
I'm thinking of using this as a small PC on my monitor - like an All-In-One. RaspPi is perfect as USB powered, things like a NUC need an extra power plug. Would be nice to have something more powerful though, Compute Stick is the only alternative I know of, am I missing something?
I've heard a lot about the ODROID-C2, which people rave about.
I hope it has SATA though. In fact among all the "popular" ARM chips, only iMX6 from NXP/Freescale and A20 from Allwinner provided SATA interface. Marvell used to do ARM/SATA and now it's hard to find those chips used in any open designs.
I don't think regular linux users realise the importance of a good UI to make linux go mainstream and be accessible. No UI for the firewall, no UI for scheduled jobs (CRON), no UI to give the right permissions to enable some script to execute. Lots of acronym based commands that are anything but intuitive.
As is, my experience of linux is that it is a "RTFM or die" system.
 and also the python 2 vs python 3 thing, which technically isn't linux's fault but that I wouldn't have to deal with if I could use .net. This was my first experience with python and I lost two hours on a bug to realise that python 2 wasn't compatible with SNI. And then you have several versions of python installed and to run anything you have to specify the right version and sub-version of python in the command. This was an awful experience.
It's much, much better than it was 10 years ago. You can even use C# these days!   
I think that's basically where we're at and will continue to be at with desktop Linux because essentially the 'internal' problems are all solved now. Ubuntu boots and installs from a CD/USB in about seven clicks (all of which are either typing a name, language, or clicking forward).
A Linux user has no need to play around with RDP just as a Windows user has no need to play around with X11. I think it's unfair to expect mutual compatibility there.
If you're waiting for that, it will never happen, because effectively you're asking for Windows userspace running on the Linux kernel. A bit like asking for windows games on Linux - WINE exists, but native will always be better.
FWIW, I think the Windows IOT that's made for RPi will be a big disappointment for most people - as the expectation would be "regular Windows, compatible with Anything and Everything, just running on RPi" versus the reality of "something that loosely resembles Windows, but severely limited". In this, I believe that it's better to dive into a Linux distro (the NOOBS one should make stuff easier) - there's a learning curve, but you're not getting sidetracked by the expectation of "runs on desktop Windows, why is it refusing to run here?"
The UI for iptables/ipfw should be on Raspian and is called "Firewall Builder"
Cron is taken care of here: https://blog.bartbania.com/linux-2/cron-jobs-with-gui/
Right clicking a script file should give you Properties, where you can select Execute permission.
There's a critical need to attract more UX designers and testers to something like Raspbian, and I think the Raspberry Pi Foundation is in a good position to do that.
What VM host software are you using? If it's VirtualBox, just install the guest additions and use it through there.
RDP is really a Microsoft-only protocol. It's better on Windows than VNC because AFAIK it's just sending draw calls across the wire. I'm not sure what XRDP does.
You may actually have a better experience on a Pi 2 or 3, because of the way Raspbian is set up to run by default.
TeamViewer has a native linux build, which works well: https://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux/
Not sure why you'd want to use Wine.
I could also have used VNC but I much prefer the RDP experience, in particular being able to share the clipboard with the local machine and to copy text and files.
VirtualBox also does clipboard and file sharing, but only with the Guest Additions (only tested under a recent Ubuntu).
I don't mean to be too snarky about it, but it's a different environment and you're complaining that it's not as easy as the one you're familiar with. "Intuitive" is difficult to quantify; the Windows interface has changed repeatedly in the 7 -> 8 -> 10 era while the basic command line interface hasn't, so once you learn it it's not likely to be obsoleted. There are Linux UIs with all of the stuff you mention - GNOME has always targeted that market.
.NET has its own versioning pain with the .NET frameworks across different versions of Windows. I think it will eventually become more popular on Linux, but only once trust of Microsoft has slowly been rebuilt. Having an open source System.Windows.Forms would help too.
(Professionally I'm a Windows CE developer at the moment, which is a little weird from a Linux background)
And a more than ideal system would give you the way to go from GUI to scripting easily. I.e. in any control panel you would have a button at the top that if you click, will make some command windows appear below the current window, which would show you the command line equivalent of anything that you do using the GUI.
I am not arguing against having a scriptable OS. I am saying that a GUI makes things a lot easier to understand intuitively, being able to observe the state of the system visually and making it clear what are all the possible options from a given point.
You should check out this link - production quality OpenSSH for Windows planned for H1 2016.
The dedicated hardware uses a mixture of Flash and battery-backed SRAM to provide a crash- and powerloss-resistant transaction system.
PS. and you can apparently use .NET on Linux anyway (Mono) - here's an example of interfacing with I2C sensors: http://blog.mshmelev.com/2013/06/connecting-raspberry-pi-and...
Your suggestion of Mono goes the right way, I think: using a familiar language in an unfamiliar environment could help with the initial confusion.
I also looked at commercial alternatives but I wanted it to call one of my web services and that's not what these IoT devices typically do.
I got my first one hoping to tinker with it a little, but it ended up hooked to my TV and running OpenELEC. So here's to hoping the second time will be more tinker-y.
https://youtu.be/Y2Z6b64eh2E?t=172 (around 2m50)
that will make setup even easier!