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How do you manage files in windows at all without drag and drop? Do you just never reorganize anything?

Further what is the chance that anyone who can't drag and drop would be able to find the setting to turn off drag and drop?




OP didn't want to remove the functionality, just provide a way to disable it for users that often perform drag & drop operation randomly.

Especially older people have problems with their motor skills so instead clicking on a file they often perform drag & drop instead (they can't hold the mouse steady enough, so the system recognizes movement and at the same time their "click" is too slow, so OS recognizes it as holding the button down)


Cut & Paste for when you really need to reorganize? But usually it would probably be enough to just list the most recent files somewhere and provide full text search for everything else.


Seeing how my elderly parents use the computer: you don't manage files. At all.

Right click is evil, keyboard shortcuts are evil, drag and drop never occurs to them. Mom usually just reads her emails (and attachements open in the browser nowdays), so it's not a problem, but father saves files.

If he finds something important then he saves it multiple times, so in the file list view there will be multiple similar items, that's how he knows it's important (visually it's very distinctive). When he has to copy a file somewhere else he usually fires up his CAD software, opens the file and then saves it elsewhere.

I just gave up "educating" them (after countless attempts). It's pointless. I remove file duplicates half a year, copy stuff to an usb key when he asks me (I visit them once a month) and avoid the machines like the plague, unless they explicitly ask me to do something (I installed ubuntu for mom, which works wonderfully for her, one less problem to worry about).


There's something different about cut & paste vs drag & drop, though it won't impact most people.

If you're using RDP and copying files from the host computer to the remote computer, it's natural to cut/copy the file on the host and paste it on the remote. Drag/Drop isn't as natural because you have to mess around with the RDP window size and scroll position to be able to see Explorer on both machines.

The file copy occurs very slowly, and requires a lot of memory. Copy/Paste uses the clipboard, so the entire file gets read into memory before it can be written to the remote filesystem. It goes slowly because there is apparently an un-optimized loop copying bytes.

Instead, on the remote system you should open two Explorer windows, one for the destination and one for your local filesystem, which RDP adds for you. Then you can drag & drop the file you want to copy. This skips the clipboard and also seems to use a much better optimized byte-copying loop. The speed difference is very noticeable.

Pro-tip: if you're copying lots of files, zip them first and copy the zipped file. That can reduce a multi-hour copy operation into a couple of minutes, even if the compression ratio is awful. Windows is really, really bad at multi-file copy operations.


Cut & Paste is (was?) dangerous btw. Windows could lose your files:

1. Cut a file.

2. Paste it somewhere.

3. Hit control Z.

4. Cry because your file is gone.

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows8_1...

But it seems I cannot reproduce that in the current build of Windows anymore. So I think they finally fixed it.


Yup, I ran into this issue enough as a kid that I stopped using cut/paste/undo in explorer. If I needed to copy or move files around, I’d use the command line—which also had the effect of making files copy much faster (seconds instead of minutes) for some reason.


Ribbons, context menus, keyboard shortcuts. For elderly users, I usually recommend the context menu because it is most universally available.

And indeed, most of the "gosh I broke the computer, all my files are deleted" calls from my grandma are caused by accidental drag-and-drop.


I'd like an interface without DnD too, not because I trigger it accidentally but because it's very bad for my RSI. And it's a nightmare on a trackpad.

Fortunately you can do 99% of file management in Windows with the keyboard, either through cut and paste or the Explorer menus.


The Mouse Keys accessibility feature lets you activate drag and drop without holding anything down.


> How do you manage files in windows at all without drag and drop? Do you just never reorganize anything?

Ctrl-X, Ctrl-V.

Are you a Mac user? Apple disabled Cut in Finder ages ago, basically for aesthetic reasons. It's a constant irritation with my Mac that I have to manually change the folder view just to move a file up one level; on Windows you can do it in less than a second with Ctrl-X, Backspace, Ctrl-V.


Apple did not "disable" Cut.

1. Copy the source file with Cmd-C

2. Browse to the destination

3. Move with Cmd-Opt-V

It's a UI design decision to avoid Cut in the filesystem. Cut would behave differently from Cut in every other app -- namely, the file is not deleted immediately after Cut. It seems better to avoid calling this "Cut" than to have it behave inconsistently from other apps.


There are Finder extensions like XtraFinder that add cut&paste to it (and a lot of other goodies)


> How do you manage files in windows at all without drag and drop?

Most people I've seen use Ctrl-X/Ctrl-V, or right-click-Cut/right-click-Paste. It has the advantage that you don't need both the source and destination visible at the same time.


You can actually drag a file from one window to the other without having both showing (such as between two maximized windows). While dragging a file, you can still manipulate windows around using the keyboard, like with alt-tab.

For example, you can begin dragging a file, then alt-tab to another window or tab or even open a new program or whatever using the keyboard, and then finally release the file into the destination window.

It's not obvious that this would work, but it is convenient if you find yourself wanting to drag something with the mouse for some reason.


You can also drag the file over the taskbar and whatever program you hover over will come to the foreground


I use the mighty Total Commander all the time :)


right click cut and paste, keyboard shortcuts?




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