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I think people are conflating way too many issues here with politics vs actual threats. China and Russia are not our allies. The CCP and Kremlin do not have our best interests in mind or even our most basic needs. They want to be global super powers and spread dictatorships. Democracy is a threat to absolute power. For years, the CCP and Kremlin authorities have been spreading disinformation to polarize politics in our country. TikTok, Twitter (X), Facebook, and Truth social have been abused and leveraged to manipulate many into thinking conspiracies are all real. This also includes media outlets and corporations that allow foreign Chinese (CCP) and oligarch investors. The difference with TikTok is that its owned by the CCP and they are very intent on getting everybody to dislike our government and splinter our democracy. While TikTok is mostly garbage, I think there are many that leverage the platform for income and have been quite successful off it. I still think it should be moderated in a way that doesn't turn citizens against each other and their own government. The only way to do this is to ban or sell the corporation. I'd also add disallowing foreign investors that are not Allies to the US. What Does Free Speech Mean? https://www.uscourts.gov/about-federal-courts/educational-re...


TikTok isn't violating any US laws. If the US outlawed 'spreading disinformation to polarize politics' they'd have to ban youtube/facebook/twitter/reddit too. Do you think we should block all websites in China and Russia? Should we block their IP space entirely? We used to say that censoring the internet was something that only happened in Evil countries like China. We'd poke fun at their Great Firewall, but to preserve our own hypocrisy the US has decided to join in on the internet censorship game. Now congress is telling you what software you're allowed to install on your own hardware.

I think it's better to have freedom. As an American I should be able to view any media from any country I like as long as that media doesn't violate US law. Americans should have the freedom to use any software written in any country they like. In this case, we lost freedom to censorship and Democracy did nothing to stop it.


> TikTok isn't violating any US laws.

Not a very good argument. This post is literally about the signing of the "Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act".

The loophole which is being closed is allowing foreign adversaries to control your social media apps.

It will be in violation if it doesn't sell.


Yes, a law was just created specifically so that tiktok could be in violation of it. Before today the platform wasn't in violation of any law and there is still nothing unique about what they've been doing compared to US owned platforms, and while their existence as a non-US owned platform has been made illegal TikTok itself wasn't doing anything illegal as a Chinese owned platform.


This exactly. We are basically giving them the keys to our culture. Especially since half the US was successfully convinced to write off their own freedom of press, which is one of the most fucking ridiculous things about it. We have the resources and freedom of our own press, guaranteed by the First Amendment. And ppl are bitching and moaning about a half-baked snapchat knockoff, with endless meme scroll animation. Half the US doesn't even realize they are using a CCP mandated and owned media outlet to rely on algorithmic digital chaos, which serves themselves to an echo of the past, and mistake it for future. We are literally watching another country manipulate policy in the house and senate live. There's no mistaking about it; we are being fucked with deliberately. Again, this isn't easy to see because it's been escalating gradually the past decade. However, if you follow the court cases, and occasionally listen to ongoing judicial and intelligence congressional hearings, they bring this up constantly. Make no mistake, American social media corps also need to be held accountable too. Americans have the right to assemble, even online. However, I don't think we should be letting Russia or China choose the platform. Again, we should only allow foreign investment from allied nations. THis shit with oligarchies and CCP controlled affiliates owning and getting on boards of disney, lucid, tesla, activation (blizzard), reddit, etc is just as fucked up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tencent


Foreigners weren't breaking our laws in 1934 when we banned them from owning radio and TV stations. Are you all really that poorly educated in US history? Have schools really deteriorated that much in the 35 years I've been away from them that kids don't know we have laws governing mass media in this country?


When TikTok urged kids to phone Congress last month, apparently a number of them asked questions like "what's Congress?". I'm going to say yes, our schools have really deteriorated that much.


I think people are conflating way too many issues here with politics vs actual threats. China and Russia are not our allies. The CCP and Kremlin do not have our best interests in mind or even our most basic needs. They want to be global super powers and spread dictatorships. Democracy is a threat to absolute power. For years, the CCP and Kremlin authorities have been spreading disinformation to polarize politics in our country. TikTok, Twitter (X), Facebook, and Truth social have been abused and leveraged to manipulate many into thinking conspiracies are all real. This also includes media outlets and corporations that allow foreign Chinese (CCP) and oligarch investors. The difference with TikTok is that its owned by the CCP and they are very intent on getting everybody to dislike our government and splinter our democracy. While TikTok is mostly garbage, I think there are many that leverage the platform for income and have been quite successful off it. I still think it should be moderated in a way that doesn't turn citizens against each other and their own government. The only way to do this is to ban or sell the corporation. I'd also add disallowing foreign investors that are not Allies to the US.

What Does Free Speech Mean? https://www.uscourts.gov/about-federal-courts/educational-re...


Not to mention they can now Id you based off your retina scan. They can also profile your house and products you use in your house. Facebook is reckless with data. Just read up on the Cambridge Analytica scandal. They were even sharing facebook messenger conversations with third party data consumers.


they can now Id you based off your retina scan

There's enough wrong with FB/Meta to not need to go into conspiracies


I presume you're not aware of Facebook's research into eye tracking for VR. It goes a lot further than just identity. I believe their main interest is gauging emotional response for better targeted advertising.


If you look at the original FT article which covered the patents that caused the whole stir [1] (paywalled but I found it in the usual places) you'll see that their patents only cover using eye tracking to render media. A comment in FT's interview with Clegg discusses using eye tracking to see if an advertisement was looked at, like how JS is used to track whether an ad was viewed now. "Gauging emotional response" is really, really stretching it. Meta does enough garbage today, let's not foment conspiracy here.

[1]: https://www.ft.com/content/76d40aac-034e-4e0b-95eb-c5d34146f...


The quest 2 does not have an inward facing camera pointing at your iris.


The quest 3 might have eye tracking and face tracking.

"One of the things I’m really excited about for future versions is getting eye tracking and face tracking in" - Mark Zuckerberg https://uploadvr.com/zuckerberg-quest-3-4-eye-face-tracking/

Here is their tech demo for full eye and face tracking for virtual avatars:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86-tHA8F-zU


What does that have to do with the quest 2 ?


The comment I responded to just happened to be the one which made me wonder how far off the dystopian future was where mega corporations are scanning people's eyes, which is why I went and searched the internet for information and found that that future is actually very close. This made me a bit worried. Therefore I mentioned that piece of information here, hoping that it might reach someone in a position to change that future.


>Facebook is reckless with data. Just read up on the Cambridge Analytica scandal. They were even sharing facebook messenger conversations with third party data consumers.

I did, and it says that they gave message access to users that authorized it to. Saying "Facebook is reckless with data" because of this makes as much sense as saying that google is "reckless" with your data because people are constantly downloading shady flashlight apps and granting them location permissions.


> they could have used off-the-shelf components for the same task.

They did use off-the-shelf components. They performed poorly and they resulted to developing a custom die with the right components to handle the task of computer vision. They explicitly stated this in multiple interviews. The off-the-shelf solution was crap.


AI/ML components change rapidly. What happens if they decide to use an entirely different approach. They develop a new chip? Still seems excessive to develop custom chips for unfinished/experimental tech like self-driving: https://www.theverge.com/2019/4/24/18514308/tesla-full-self-...


Point is they are doing it. Tesla does it. Apple does it. Microsoft does it. They are all developing their on hardware, and it's paying off, especially in Apple's and Tesla's use case. Research and development is the cornerstone of new innovation. Who cares if it's new tech. Not sure what you mean by "unfinished". They have a product that works. It's new and could use improvements, but Point is, they are doing it and winning. We can't sit around and wait for Ford and GMC, but these guys are being ran by dinosaurs. Stuck in the stone age, waiting for ICE to make a comeback. Here's the crutch of it all, ICE is pretty much out, with the old waterfall model, dead, old tech, EV is far more simple and a heck of a lot better. This whole ICE mentality where you release a car and it's "complete", has to go. This is why we have 'recalls'. Your car should continue to receive updates and improve as you drive it off the lot. Security updates are necessary, UI updates are necessary, performance and economy updates are necessary.


> This is why we have 'recalls'. Your car should continue to receive updates and improve as you drive it off the lot. Security updates are necessary, UI updates are necessary, performance and economy updates are necessary.

Did you ever try to rollout change to millions of units of anything, with individual owners of each item, operating in vastly different environments and with additional modifications from those owners?

Rolling updates is A HUGE issue, if you need reliability. It’s not a random app. It’s, for majority of the people, second most expensive purchase in their live (only behind a house). Messing up with that is very very risky.


This is less of a risk than it might appear. To be sure, it would be expensive to replace the computer part of the entire installed fleet. But the (potentially) full self-driving option is very richly priced, and sells with an incremental margin of 100% when component replacements are excluded. The sensor & computer package are included with all production cars, regardless of whether the FSD option is purchased.

Additionally, Tesla still grows their sales and customer base exponentially. This means that most significant changes in strategy during the production ramp-up will require (in the form of deprecation of now-obsolete production resources) only a small fraction of the investments required to achieve their full, steady-state production capacity.

The same argument holds for the potential case of major changes in battery technology. (Replacements of current fleet excluded, which would not happen for batteries). If Tesla's current battery technology is obsolete in 5-10 years, that's not a very big deal as their sales are expected to be a multiple of today's by then, and the new technology would be phased in during the expected production ramp. (If Tesla fails to grow by a multiple of today's sales, they have largely failed).


Once you cross the 1+ million chip threshold, custom chips stop being such a big deal.


Based on their AI chip presentation, the important thing is that they have a software/hardware integrated design relationship. Your comment assumes they do this once and never again.

I seriously doubt Tesla is not actively improving the chip, and if they need a fundamentally new software approach, then they have the process/iteration loop established.


If it was so bad, why did tesla claim for years that all their cars were shipping with sufficient onboard capability for eventual "full self driving?"


They didn't. They had been saying for years that it would require a computer upgrade that could be done with a service visit, and that the service visit would be free for people who purchased the "FSD" option.


They absolutely did, and then changed the story when they announced they were building HW3.

> All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving Hardware

> Oct 19, 2016

> To make sense of all of this data, a new onboard computer with more than 40 times the computing power of the previous generation runs the new Tesla-developed neural net for vision, sonar and radar processing software

^ this refers to the nvidia thing 'onepremise says was too bad for the job.

https://www.tesla.com/blog/all-tesla-cars-being-produced-now...

https://www.theverge.com/2016/10/19/13340938/tesla-autopilot...


It is a fair point that they didn't say it on day 1. Having said that, they've been talking about the potential for computer upgrades since at least 2017: https://www.theverge.com/2017/8/9/16119746/tesla-self-drivin...

I don't have time to dig it all up, but they were talking about the potential for computer upgrades as far back as 2016 as well: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/789008557341454336 (though not for pre-2016 vehicles).

I can see where people who don't follow the company closely wouldn't have been aware of this, though. And, obviously there have been plenty of false and misleading statements made in this area.


What was wrong with using FPGAs?


Power and capability. Custom silicon means they can build the chip with all of the chip's surface being used for things their software needs (ie. extra surface for parallel computing and zero surface for unneeded features). They can also tune the chip with ops/watt in mind. Nvidia has touted their A.I. chips being x10 more powerful, but they also took twice the power to do it [1]. For an electric vehicle that lives on only the charge stored in its batteries, you want to use exactly as much power as you need to get the job done and no more.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19732974


If the tool you're using claims its services are "free", you can bet there's nothing private about it. This whole notion of free services, is deeply flawed. Wall all have witnesesed this , first hand, from the Cambridge Analytica fallout. Facebook has royally skull fucked society, politics, and our economy in so many different ways it's not even funnny. This is why I'll never install apps like Facebook, Facebook messenger, signal, whatsapp, instagram, tictoc, or similar. It's all garbage.


I worked for a firm, which studied satellite navigation and implementation for air traffic control, guidance, safety, and ILS. I don't think that will ever happen. There are huge gaping issues with GPS, both WAAS and GBAS. It's very unreliable, especially in bad weather. The old-school RF tower and ILS, which used Carrier frequency pairings by the runway, are way more reliable and propagate bad weather while guiding the plane into a runway. There's also been ongoing issues with truckers, with GPS jammers, which drive by airports impacting the quality of signal for planes coming into runway. Even the GPS signal itself has latency and lag, which prevents the plane from making quick adjustments for avoiding traffic and ILS guidance.


The ATC scenario has significantly more relaxed requirements than ILS, and this change is intended primarily to provide coverage in situations where there is no, or limited, coverage from conventional methods (primary/secondary radar), and likely ultimately to replace the outdated secondary radar system with a space-based one.

ADS-B is not a guidance tool and will not lead to any more usage of GPS for guidance than is currently common - and certainly won't impact ILS. They're just totally different use-cases.


> Even the GPS signal itself has latency and lag

What do you mean by this? You sound pretty knowledgeable, so you must know that it's simply not possible for the GPS signal to have latency or lag.


It's actually impossible for GPS to show your current position.

The signals have to be received from each satellite, then processed to yield a position valid at the time of transmission.

Every GPS fix you get is delayed by AT LEAST that processing time. Any filtering adds more lag.

Most navigation systems look at the T(fix) -> T(now) difference and project your now position from the prior fixes. Especially if you're following driving directions as opposed to free movement, then programs like Maps etc project how much further you've moved on the route, not just along your velocity vector.

After a few seconds, though, that projection will stop moving, too, when the gap between last fix and now gets too large.


The position output by a GPS receiver certainly can (will) have lag. That's probably what the poster I replied to was referring to, and I hadn't thought about it.


Not the poster, but while the GPS signal doesn't have lag, many receivers run the output through a Kalman filter for higher precision.


This change allows every pilot to have essentially a 'radar view' of their surroundings, cheaply. A receiver and an iPad app give them a picture much like the aircraft control tower would have.

Lots of issues I'm sure. It'll be interesting to see how this sorts out.


Why do truckers have GPS jammers?


https://gizmodo.com/jamming-gps-signals-is-illegal-dangerous...

> he’s seen truckers trying to avoid paying highway tolls, employees blocking their bosses from tracking their cars, high school kids using them to fly drones in a restricted area, and even, he believes, undercover police officers using them to avoid tails


Don't forget the Kremlin spoofing the local airport to try to keep drones from flying near their government buildings!


Beating DOT legalities, hiding things like side trips to casinos/mistresses/bars from the boss, general dislike for big brother, etc.


It should be straightforward to have GPS jammer detectors along the road. Throw in a giant federally enforced fine and people will stop using them.


In fact these do exist. I saw a demo a few years back from a company that tracked bogus GPS signals and how they could watch jammers drive around the streets of London all day long.

These guys were doing it because they were tasked with keeping LTE towers synchronized and they did it with GPS time so they were building in resilience to their time sources by measuring the signal level and rejecting anything that came in too strong. Spotting jammers was a side benefit.


The GPS antenna on the LTE tower should only be picking up signals from the sky. Transmitters on trucks would need to reflect off of aircraft in order to cause trouble, which would greatly weaken the signal.


Yes the antenna pattern will attenuate the signal coming from the ground somewhat, but it also doesn't suffer from 182 dB of freespace attenuation like the real signal. It doesn't have to bounce off of an airplane either, the Earth has a layer of atmosphere around it that gets ionized by the sun and is also full of water vapor. We also don't have the ability to build perfect antennas, especially since it has to cover the entire sky (GPS antennas do not physically track the individual satellites).


To defeat "the Qualcomm", which records hours. This may let them drive longer than the DOT allows.


So their corporate telemetry system doesn't document their long lunch at the strip club which, for other reasons, happens to be located just around the corner from the airport.


You either didn't see the comma or you're joking


Don’t think they’re wrong in their interpretation. Why would a trucker without a GPS jammer driving by an airport cause an issue?


I'm pretty sure I parsed it correctly. It's "Truckers (with GPS jammers) who drive my airports...". Parsing it as a list means it no longer makes sense.


I not sure how many realize this, but the books were actually written by a team of writers, well 2 writers, in parallel, defining the world, characters, and storylines. James S.A. Corey is the pen name of authors Daniel Abraham and Ty Franck. Great series too :)


And it get really interesting who their friends are down there in New Mexico :)


This should be a no brainer. Robocalls should be illegal and blocked by your phone provider. Must the chairmen really make an exploit a profit margin for corporations? We need somebody in the FCC that can at least understand technology and consumers.


It's bad for large cap corporations looking to establish monopolies. It's great for small businesses.


louis Rossman did an episode on the macbook keyboard problems:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KuVvb9DTaU

It's insane what a mac user must go through even to attempt to repair this themselves. Another reason it's important to support right to repair, https://repair.org/.

There's also a lawsuit for the keyboard defects:

https://www.classlawgroup.com/apple-macbook-pro-keyboard-def...


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