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HN posts about this used to be 99% Pro-Zionist. There’s been a marked shift in opinion (or less bots) and I’m very, very glad that people are recognising the extent of war crimes being committed by Israel.

Maybe it's because social media has relayed the truth and Israel can no longer use its grip on western media to conceal its atrocities.

Maybe.

Worth considering that in terms of relative size, Israel has a population of 10 million, Jews in the world number ~14 million.

Whereas the Arab world, which tends to be relatively anti-Israel, numbers ~220 million. And Muslims, which tend to be anti-Israel as well, number 1.2 billion.

So just in terms of number of voices, the natural pro-Israel voices [1] are vastly outnumbered by the natural anti-Israel voices.

Think about how this impacts what you hear, how this impacts the votes in the UN (which is not democratic but votes are by country), how this impacts economic reactions (number of consumers), etc.

[1] This is a sweeping generalization, but it is statistically true that Jews are usually pro-Israel and Arabs and Muslims are usually anti-Israel. With other religions/ethnicities it's more complicated.


But Zionists have AIPAC and its equivalent in Europe and Australia.

Though global populations show a larger anti-Israel sentiment, Western media and internet forums don't reflect this balance.

Western media often aligns with Israeli perspectives due to strategic alliances, lobbying influence, and media ownership dynamics, framing Israel’s actions as defensive while sidelining broader Arab or Palestinian views.

Online, pro-Israel narratives are reinforced by organized digital campaigns and moderation practices that shape public discourse. Meanwhile, pro-Palestinian voices lack comparable resources and organization in Western spaces, limiting their visibility. This creates a media and digital environment where Western audiences are exposed to narratives that don’t fully represent the global spectrum of perspectives.


> Though global populations show a larger anti-Israel sentiment, Western media and internet forums don't reflect this balance.

I'm not sure you're right. Isn't this a bit hard to judge without first deciding what is true and what constitutes bias? I'm fairly certain we don't agree with on either of these.

Most Israelis consider things like the BBC and the NYT to be biased against Israel. Are you sure they're wrong?


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That is not what most Israelis think.

The fact that you so easily think this badly of an entire country speaks a lot about your own biased views.


Yeah those monsters that you're imagining are a brainchild of your echo chamber.

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Isn't it too shameless to create a fake named zionistshill?

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Unlikely, I sampled the hn users in this discussion. Most are a few years old, and have karma.

Hn is not important enough to warrant a multi year psyops, so these are probably actual humans.


That’s not what I was suggesting.

Just as well as it could be “less bots” promoting one side, to “more bots” promoting the other. What types of war would you not consider a crime?

99% pro Zionist ...can you show me even one example of such a post? I don't think you can.


Anything critical of Israel is usually flagged by users and removed from the front page.

This very post would seem to belie that. In fact, the only times Israel ever rises to the front page is when the article is biased and critical, as is this one.

The only posts labeled "flagged" here are those who are nuanced about Israel at all with the exception of one overtly anti-Semitic post.


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I find it curious that your only engagement on HackerNews is defending Israel and never engaging on other technical topics.

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You are posting on a forum for technical discussion.

Something tells me its my being pro Israeli that actually bothers you and not my ratio of tech to non tech engagement...

Also - genuinely curious what made you click on this article? And then engage me in it? If you're here only for tech news that is.


Is there actual evidence than hearsay?

Cameras are everywhere. It should be trivial to prove these claims.


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