Personally speaking, as the kind of black woman who, nine years ago or so, should have in theory been being negatively affected by male culture like this, I don't find a meaningful dose of negative discrimination in "women are welcomed with hugs and handpounds pretty much everywhere, let's make sure there's a place for men too." I respect your stance and your viewpoint, but I think you're worrying about folks who don't need much worrying done on their behalf. We women will be just fine without being the implicit focus of every place we go.
See how that sounds.
EDIT: Please, kindly, don't speak for the entirety of your gender. Nor for the opposite gender. Don't speak in absolutes, just speak for yourself, thanks.
I'll pretend you're not being disingenuous, because good gravy only one of us is saying things reflective of reality and you tipped your hand real hard, and point out the obvious: I'm not speaking for the "entirety of my gender." I'm speaking for me. And I'm saying that we have everything and that people like me can stand to give a little because we're certainly not going to be materially hurt by it.
And y'know? You can disagree with that all you want. I think you're wrong, and I think spinning up a new account to say something you fear is unpopular (but, let's not front, is so openly accepted here that I've exchanged some disappointed emails with dang) is real shitty, but you can disagree and I never said I spoke for you. You can hang yourself by your own words without my help.
Just to be completely honest and because I dislike mudding another person's opinion/posts/reputation, I am not a throwaway account made by the person you were originally replying to and I have nothing to do with that person. You can personally not believe this, a mod could verify it if it were that important, however please don't take it as such.
I think we all know why I made a throwaway account and why unpopular opinions are hard to express on a non-throwaway one.
I'm all for helping unprivileged classes and people, however there have been a lot of very dangerous thinking where privileged classes end up being discriminated in the first place. As the grandparent was stating, exclusion and segregation is not a solution for the 'privilege wars', we should be working towards inclusion and acceptance and not by forcing it by banning specific classes of privileged people. The privileged of today will be the unprivileged of tomorrow and nothing would have been solved, and I see this line of reasoning way too much to be comfortable.
Speaking as a so-called privileged person myself, I am all for acceptance and inclusion of those less fortunate than me, but let's not turn this into an unnecessary war of the least privileged.
I didn't think you were patzerhacker. I don't agree with patzerhacker, but I think she's honest with her thoughts and feelings. I don't think the same of you. Men of today will not be the unprivileged of tomorrow by a few people saying "you know, it's probably not a bad idea to have a few places where it's not automatically expected that you're a man or you're The Other." Your post is the same kind of reductionist zero-sum crap that ruins everything it touches, and I wish you would stop hurting people in a worse position than you are with it.
And I've never, not once, had a problem with expressing unpopular opinions without a green username. See? Look elsewhere in this thread. Oh no. Somebody downvoted me for having the temerity to think bias exists. My life is now so hard.
See how that sounds.
EDIT: Please, kindly, don't speak for the entirety of your gender. Nor for the opposite gender. Don't speak in absolutes, just speak for yourself, thanks.