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The lack of tools that can be easily downloaded and installed in the .NET environment drove me absolutely insane (I used .NET in the past).

Unfortunately that's a big stop sign for me to pursue .NET knowledge/career.




I don't know, I think VS express is one of few batteries-included dev experiences. What's easy is subjective of course but to me, having to configure an editor to use a compiler (downloaded separately) is a huge turnoff. I agree the .net ecosystem leaves a lot to be desired in aux tools like build system/pkg management, but it's no worse than Java, JS or Python in that respect imho.

Not sure which kind of tool you refer to?


> I don't know, I think VS express is one of few batteries-included dev experiences. [...] , having to configure an editor to use a compiler (downloaded separately) is a huge turnoff.

You can download Java + Netbeans here: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk-...

Comes with integrated Maven dependency management, decent refactoring, JUnit etc ootb. Other additions available through built in package manager.


Yep, there are a few others. Netbeans is clearly high on the list of those that tick all the boxes and is still free. It still doesn't come close to the most expensive versions of VS (with ReSharper), and IntelliJ, but those don't compete in the free tier.


Eclipse and its plugins beat the most expensive version of VS.Net


Not sure what is so difficult: http://downloadvisualstudio.com


For hobbyist? Yes.

For large scale project? Not enough.


Ms finally clued in that their big missing feature wasn't yet another fancy-shmancy framework full of god-classes, but a decent OSS community. They've been making great strides with NuGet, open development of ASP and EF, etc. A lot of ground to catch up on that front, but the cathedral is finally opening up the courtyard.


Don't forget F# and Roslyn. There's not much of an ivory tower there at all any more.




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