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> WTF? Those SaaS/PaaS usually make clear what the plan cover and don't cover.

WTF? Those free games don't cost you a thing, too! And damn, if you don't want to pay, you don't have to. Apple tells you straight out if a game, free or otherwise, has IAP. They provide you with prices.

What more do you want?

> I do have a problem with companies saying those are free games where they aren't free and have paid requirements to keep playing the game.

So... your problem is that you don't enjoy some free games? You think if a game isn't good enough, it shouldn't be free? That's harsh.

Of all the first world problems to have, this really takes the cake.



> What more do you want?

People want clarity of information.

You keep saying that the price is listed. But IAPs are hidden behind an extra click. This might seem trivial to you but it is the kind of thing that the EU regulates and most citizens are pleased they do so.

Take another example. In the UK if you're a business marketing to the public and you advertise goods you must include the VAT in the advertised price. The end user almost always has to pay the VAT so it's nonsensical to advertise a product to the public without it.

Today Apple has a featured game which they call free. You click it to get to the game page and it is listed at free+. You scroll down and click IAPs and see that they offer an IAP for £34.99 - that's $58

Apple scoops up a lot of the IAP money and so it is in their interest to push games with IAPs, and it is dishonest of them to push games as free if those games are not truly free.

It is this dishonest advertising model that has driven app prices to such a low point. Someone honestly advertising a game at £5 is going to struggle to make any money.


Hidden behind an extra click? Okay I'll bite. I'm on my phone, but that's fair as most people would be as wee I imagine.

Let's see. Game section, and the top free game I see is Disco Zoo. It's advertised as free. It's described as best new game.

Tap.

Okay, let's see, still free. Swipey Swipey swipe. Pretty pictures, Game Center, and oh look! IAP. But yres, I need to tsp to see those prices.

I wonder..,

So yeah, it's battleship meets zoos. You earn gold in game and use that to fund your battle shipping excursions. I guess if I'm impatient I can just buy more gold. Yep.

Yes yes, I see your point! The game is clearly not free! I have to buy that gold instead of playing the game.

Thank god the EU is there to tackle the horrors of Disco Zoo.

Seriously, the only dishonesty here are the people claims of suffering from this.


You might want to switch to decaff. You're being a bit of a dick.

In the EU the price you see is the price you pay. Weights and measures are standardised so people can compare proces across different stores.

In the US the price you see is less than the price you pay. You add sales tax. That makes it harder to compare prices.

The problem isn't that apps cost money nor that they offer IAPs. The problem is the lack of tranparency with apps. This means that good quality apps with honest procing are penalised by lower quality apps that hide the cost in IAPs but describe themselves as free.

You only need to look at the App Store to see how dysfunctional the current system is.

I realy don't know why you are so aggressively dismissive of something that would allow developers to advertise their software at a sensible real cost and not have to compete with shitty "free" apps that hide the cost in IAPs.


> ..damn, if you don't want to pay, you don't have to. Apple tells you straight out if a game, free or otherwise, has IAP. They provide you with prices.

If they're saying it's the free game of the week, people actually understood it to mean it's actually free. Several of my friends and family members got confused with this and actually thought the IAP was free as well.

> So... your problem is that you don't enjoy some free games? You think if a game isn't good enough, it shouldn't be free? That's harsh.

What does enjoyment have to do with anything? That wasn't the point, the point is the marketing, not the games itself. I don't have a problem with the games, I have a problem with the marketing saying they're free entirely.


You: "What does enjoyment have to do with anything?"

You from a parent comment: "Their free app of the week is often so-called free games but they almost always have in-app purchases that's required to actually enjoy the game."

> Several of my friends and family members got confused with this and actually thought the IAP was free as well.

Yep. I'm done.




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