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> Psyching people out is natural human behavior. Heck, even Arnold Schwarzenegger figured out that stealing Mike Katz' lucky shirt before a competition might take off a few points.

Arnold Schwarzenegger? http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/1002-01.htm You cite that guy as some kind of super centered human? ("even Arnold Schwarzenegger")

Also, where does the power differential come into play? Arnold snagging the shirt from a competitor, that's cute; but try an adversary with a near unlimited budget and arsenal, and many, many, many people. Try being one person, living in a foreign country because you would feel even more unsafe at home.

This, is being a bully. Not as a "human", but as a machinery built of humans (which can take on radically different properties btw). To bring up Arnold is correct in a way, but not because it's "normal" in any sense other than chimpanzees hunting others for fun and profit is "normal". Fuck normal. The question is, do we at this point in time and going forward want that. That is always the question. Some call it civilization, or decency.

And as for being on par with the STASI: http://apps.opendatacity.de/stasi-vs-nsa/english.html

Your argument is kinda that it's not being the STASI because it's being a normal human being. Just pause and think about that. By your logic not even the STASI Zersetzung was actually STASI Zersetzung, because it's just normal individuals doing what normal individuals do. There is nothing you could not justify with that.

Fact is, if you were the target of this, you'd appreciate support, you'd love to see a change. But since you're not, you tell us what Appelbaum probably cares most about. He talks about how he realized how surveillance kills human relationships, how he lost many friends and even his girlfriend because they could NOT stand that pressure.

And you tell us it's not harrassment... just astonishing. Just no.




>You cite that guy as some kind of super centered human?

Where did I do that?

>And you tell us it's not harrassment... just astonishing. Just no.

Again you misread me. It may be harassment, but what was my point about harassment? Read again please.


> Where did I do that?

by saying "even Arnold Schwarzenegger". What does the "even" mean, then?

Another interesting thought is that he actually stole the shirt to demoralize, so for Zersetzungspurposes.

> what was my point about harassment?

That's it's "natural", and therefore not Zersetzung. Not really much of a point if you ask me.




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