>I hope you won't bother pulling a No True Scotsman here, because the list goes on.
By cherry-picking North Korea as your only example as a non-capitalist experiment, and pre-disqualifying anyone who says that it isn't a representative example for all possible non-capitalist systems as someone employing a logical fallacy, you haven't really left any room for discussion.
Why not pick China, or the USSR?
Or the entire modern West, which pretty much exists as explicitly mixed socialist/capitalist economies - filled with welfare, national health services, unemployment benefits, industrial subsidies, public education, and progressive taxation?
I hope you won't bother pulling a No True Scotsman here, because the list goes on.
>> We have had experiments with other systems than Capitalsm, and some of them are still running. Korea is split in North and South, the southern part is capitalist, was in garment manufacturing and now has an exceptional level of wealth, while the northern part is communist and has become one big concentration camp.
> By cherry-picking North Korea as your only example as a non-capitalist experiment, and pre-disqualifying anyone who says that it isn't a representative example for all possible non-capitalist systems as someone employing a logical fallacy, you haven't really left any room for discussion.
> Why not pick China, or the USSR?
I cannot fathom what's going on in your comment. But there are two obvious responses:
1. North Korea was called out, as mentioned in the comment you respond to, because, unlike Maoist China and the USSR, it's still going.
2. Maoist China and the USSR also fit the bill of "one big concentration camp", so if he had picked one of them instead, nothing about his comment would have changed. Both were total, unimaginable disasters for the entire population of each country. It's like you said "sure, 2 is an even number, but what about 8?"
From the relevant wikipedia page: " In the wake of the spread of fascism through Europe, Stalin repressed both Communist Party members and elements of the population by creating an atmosphere of political paranoia and establishing a system of correctional labour camps."
Modern social democracy is basically capitalist-fueled redistribution of wealth, and just about every economist and policy wonk who believes in 'capitalism' is referring to this kind of government. It's an entire other world from capital-S socialism. So I'm not sure what you're getting at.
By cherry-picking North Korea as your only example as a non-capitalist experiment, and pre-disqualifying anyone who says that it isn't a representative example for all possible non-capitalist systems as someone employing a logical fallacy, you haven't really left any room for discussion.
Why not pick China, or the USSR?
Or the entire modern West, which pretty much exists as explicitly mixed socialist/capitalist economies - filled with welfare, national health services, unemployment benefits, industrial subsidies, public education, and progressive taxation?
I hope you won't bother pulling a No True Scotsman here, because the list goes on.