You can talk and argue all you want. But the fact is, many many successful systems have been built, and are being built, by programmers who couldn't care less about mathematics. Many of those couldn't care less about programming, either, to be honest. We here who are reading such discussions are the elite of programming, and also the small percentage of programmers who actually care about our craft. Let's not forget that most don't - and it's not a problem, the world still works.
