In all seriousness, Point 7: Share Buttons - are these actually effective? It's a genuine question as I've seen such a mixed response to them. We've chosen not to include any obvious share buttons on hackerjobs.co.uk as I figured no-one would want to share a job on their facebook account so lets not ruin the minimalism of the page. Thoughts?
Might be a personal bias here, but I would never use those buttons to share your website/product/blog with my friends. I'd just copy and paste the URL into Facebook/Twitter/whatever and go from there.
Judging by its usage rate in previous projects I've been a part of, many other people operate the same way or simply ignore any sort of sharing aspect.
I've had about 30 clicks on the links included in the twitter posts, from about 2 or 3 twitter posts. Not a bad number of clicks per posting, but the app itself still gets over a hundred downloads a week from App Store searches.
I hate this attitude, and it's prevalent all over HN. What makes you so special? Because you simply found this site before someone else?
I imagine there are plenty of brilliant and interesting people on the internet that are not aware of HN, but could contribute nicely if they became members here.
This "age elitism" issue is wearying. It happens in other places too (SomethingAwful, for example, went through a hilariously horrible period where the year you registered was the most important part of your post).
But this is supposedly an intellectual forum, not a comedy forum. Grow up and stop thinking the number of days since joining makes you better than someone else.
(Yes, I joined after you. I am also diluting this forum. Get off my lawn.)
When I first got here, people were complaining about the new guys. I only seem "old"-ish because I joined to make a comment like 3 (edit: actually 4, crikey) years ago and then didn't come back until this year.
My problem is not the new guy. It's that he says he found non-HN readers and, in so many words, said "fill up their page with stuff".
He didn't say "join HN and hang around for a while".
You could argue that if that said presentation was clearly stating to use hacker news as a marketing tool. (Which would attract the wrong people from the get go anyway).
On the flip side, bringing hacker news to the attention of the mass could have also a positive effect especially if these people can contribute relevant and good content.
Additionally I feel that HN has a good algorithm to stop most of the people who wouldn't be a good fit anyway. Posting a post on HN and then getting people to vote won't get you to the front page (and if it does, getting dropped off it is pretty easy if the content you posted is not relevant).
> Additionally I feel that HN has a good algorithm to stop most of the people who wouldn't be a good fit anyway.
> Posting a post on HN and then getting people to vote won't get you to the front page (and if it does, getting dropped off it is pretty easy if the content you posted is not relevant).
If there's too much spam, those brave netizens who patrol the windswept frontier of /newest don't get time to look at what is actually good.
> those brave netizens who patrol the windswept frontier of /newest
I don't know how they feel about it, but I sometimes feel that visiting /newest to vote / flag stuff is a kind of civic duty. For the good of all of us (except the ones who are dead).
In all seriousness, Point 7: Share Buttons - are these actually effective? It's a genuine question as I've seen such a mixed response to them. We've chosen not to include any obvious share buttons on hackerjobs.co.uk as I figured no-one would want to share a job on their facebook account so lets not ruin the minimalism of the page. Thoughts?