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San Francisco is starting to get away from this, particularly in the fringe / expansion areas of the CBD in the South of Market and Mid-Market areas.

There's actually always been residential space close to downtown, but it's generally been either tremendously expensive (Telegraph Hill), or near-tenement conditions (Chinatown). Parking is extremely limited and expensive, if you do own a car. There's also an issue with out-of-town HNVIs purchasing condos in or near the CBD but spending very little time there (other major cosmopolitan metro areas have similar issues, notably London).



Telegraph Hill is a bit of a hike from downtown, isn't it?

It's tough to get a shared metric here; San Francisco is small to start with, and "downtown" San Francisco is even smaller.


Everything in SF is trivially nearby if you go by bicycle. I myself commute from Nob Hill near the Fairmont (Clay/Mason) to where Telegraph Avenue intersects with the UC Berkeley campus. I only take the Bart from Embarcadero to West Oakland. My commute averages 40-60 minutes and the variability is 100% how long I have to wait for the train (longer wait times in the evening).

If I had to commute within the 7x7 block that is SF, almost everything is within ~20 minutes of riding.


Well, yes, if you consider 2-4 blocks to be a hike.


Union to Geary? A mile to Embarcadero, ~mile to Transamerica Tower? I agree these are trivial distances and agree with the parent that SF has mixed commercial/residential.




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