On: When DEF CON partners with the U.S. Army

[tptacek]

I was at Defcon in the 1990s and it was never a counterculture conference. It has always been Nerd Spring Break Daytona Beach.

[prettyblocks → tptacek]

Felt like counter culture to me when I went to my first one (DC11). I remember punk kids selling manuals and lineman sets they stole out of the back of telco trucks outside the entrance of Alexis Park.