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For what it's worth, this article is much better.


For more detail, there's a 3-part series on iOS SPTM and TXM:

Aug 2023, https://www.df-f.com/blog/ios17

Nov 2023, https://www.df-f.com/blog/ios-17round2

Feb 2025, https://www.df-f.com/blog/sptm3


Somewhat less detail, actually.


DF blog series source reference, https://randomaugustine.medium.com/on-apple-exclaves-d683a2c...

  I would particularly like to highlight the work of Dataflow Forensics and their much more advanced work dissecting SPTM without the benefit of source code. I enthusiastically await their promised blog post about exclaves and hope they will answer many of the remaining questions, provide gory disassembly explanations, and correct all my mistakes and assumptions!


They are being polite. The Dataflow blog post barely goes beyond running strings.


> They are being polite.

Are they? The article's closing paragraph advertises a _future_ Dataflow blog post to the reader. Their follow-up March correction is consistent with the Dataflow Feb summary, https://randomaugustine.medium.com/more-speculation-on-excla...


Yes, they're saying that there's some stuff they didn't cover, and they hope the Dataflow people will. But the first couple didn't really answer much so I'm not particularly hopeful.


100% agree.

The discussion has been underwhelming:

I read TFA and wasn't sure what to even make of it.


That is underwhelming! (But also.. that's *this* discussion.. and the other discussion is already linked by GP.. so I'm not really sure what you're aiming for here)


Only attempting to share information. Is there an unstated next step (or next-next step) given Apple's moves?

A gentle suggestion for a more interesting / entertaining article currently on the front page with a glance: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43311696

Hatching a Conspiracy: A BIG Investigation into Egg Prices

https://www.thebignewsletter.com/p/hatching-a-conspiracy-a-b...

P.s. @gnabgib thanks for all your excellent dupe postings! I used to do a lot but life got busier. You are appreciated.

Edit: @thrdbndndn: My bad, yes this submitted article is the one that sucks. Thank you! If you delete your reply it will make things less confusing, but no worries and best wishes.


He's saying you're posting the HN URL of this very discussion to.. this discussion.




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