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Someone Stole My Title, Meta Description Tag and Page Rank (discountgeni.us)
8 points by discountgenius on July 31, 2012 | hide | past | favorite | 17 comments



1) stop "reading up" on SEO on the internet. really. just stop it. now.

80% of everything written about SEO on the internet is bullshit (this means 8 out of the 10 articles you have read reduce your knowledge about SEO (and the web in general))

2) never ever mention the word page rank again. page-rank is thought-cancer (and does not mean what you think it means)

3) your site is indexed via your IP address http://173.254.8.113/, this site ranks for your obscure long tail search term. make a canonical tag to your main domain. then our site will rank for your obscure long tail search term. to understand canonical tags go to http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.ch/2010/09/seo-starte... download the PDF and read it front to cover.

4) if you want to understand SEO, read a book http://www.amazon.com/Search-Engine-Marketing-Inc-Companys/d...

last but not least: stop worrying and complaining about scrapper sites. they are here to stay. try to make the best shop website around.

and as a side note: with a high probability your blogpost will - from now on - rank for "high quality Bitcoin hat" as it reached the front page of HN (it will get distributed a lot, via scrappers, HN web-app-websites, ...) and the blog post has - compared to your shop start page and your shop page - textual content.


last but not least: stop worrying and complaining about scrapper sites. they are here to stay. try to make the best shop website around.

This isn't a site scraper at play; the uggsblogs.org domain's DNS is pointing to btcgear.com's IP address. Easy enough to fix with a virtual host, but very different to being scraped.


you are correct, then a canonical tag will fix it for good and google.


"80% of everything written about SEO on the internet is bullshit"

This is simply a corollary of Sturgeon's Law. It applies to every field and topic. The advice to not read anything seems like the wrong response. Did you learn which 80% is wrong by not reading anything on the Internet?


i read the 80%, so you/he/she/they don't have to. i strongly encourage to read a - good - book first http://www.amazon.com/Search-Engine-Marketing-Inc-Companys/d... before taking a deep dive into the SEO bullshit-blog circus.


I agree that 80% of the SEO stuff on the web is self serving circle-jerk crap. But, this is an excellent starting point for SEO:

http://www.seomoz.org/beginners-guide-to-seo


the beginners guide from seomoz is ... kinda ok ... and has same valuable pointers, sadly the seomoz-blogs are a big part of the problem, that's why i'm very hesitant pointing newbies to any of their resources.


I disagree, Rand's whiteboard Fridays are usually outstanding. However, you are correct, they are generally not newbie friendly. They are intended for a more informed audience.

As with anything, it all takes time. I think there are too many quick-fix SEO blogs and "products" that the genuine content gets lost in the wind.

I'm usually a fan of the SeoBook blog, but sometimes Aaron Wall's posts can get too preachy.


That which you noticed as a "side note" is undoubtedly the entire point of this post.


I would much prefer my store rank than my personal blog.

I found something I didn't understand. Googling the issue only found pages about content scraping. I thought I would bring this issue to people who know more than me.


Something smells fishy here. Both uggsblogs.org and the original site at btcgear.com point to the same IP address (173.254.8.113), and have the exact same content.

At a guess, uggsblogs.org is trying to set up a pagerank scam where in the future they'll try to sell the domain to someone else with the false promise of a high PR value. Either that or the btcgear.com guys are attempting to create some drama in an unethical manner. My money's on the pagerank scam or a similar equivalent.

Edit: quick way to fix this would be to add a separate virtual host on the btcgear.com server for uggsblogs.org, filled with nothing empty content. Leave the scammers to then move on to someone else.


OP here: try typing "uggsblogs.org" into a browser... NOT the same content... when I originally looked at it, I didn't click through. I didn't realize they had my same content.

Also, I paid my webhost extra for a dedicated IP, so I'm not sure how uggsblogs is showing my IP. Edit: never mind... they're pointing to me... not me to them.


OP here: try typing "uggsblogs.org" into a browser... NOT the same content... when I originally looked at it, I didn't click through. I didn't realize they had my same content

It's showing the same content for me when I try just that. Latest stable Chrome on Windows 7.

Also, I paid my webhost extra for a dedicated IP, so I'm not sure how uggsblogs is showing my IP.

Anyone can point a domain to your IP address; a dedicated IP address basically just means that the IP address itself belongs to your server, not that no-one else can point their domain at it. For a cheeky example, it took me under 30 seconds to set up this: http://btc.moomoomoo.com/


My bad, I was hitting .com not .org.

Yeah, I realized that right after I posted.


Not to go on a complete SEO rant, but here it goes. Page Rank is next to useless, like that hangy thing in the back of your throat. Page title and meta description are a close second, but still needed. Kind of like a title of a book, these serve only to "introduce" your page to the search engines and the users. Content, content, content. That's where it really matters.

Despite what most people think, there IS useful SEO reading on the web. This is an excellent guide: http://www.seomoz.org/beginners-guide-to-seo

But, as another poster mentioned, something strange is going on here. How long has your site been live?


We've been live for about a week.


It would seem, then, that Google is trying to figure out who's site is legit. Google generally has an "index everything and sort it out later" mentality. Quite a few sites I've build show up #1 for their target keywords right away, but within a few days they get buried again.




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