If PA works like some other places I know, there would be something of a rivalry between those two schools, so it was a little unusual to see the two threads on the frontpage at the same time.
Several swing states have high quality research institutions doing important work.
North Carolina is another state where research was historically very important to the economy.
Even if you don't think the US should fund as much research, this austerity approach is directly impacting the economies of many communities - and not all of them are in deep blue states.
Ah, fair enough, fair enough, it's hard to know these days and evidently in between all the other comments and the general mood, I guess a lot of people are in a very defensive stance at the moment.
As I’ve said in the Penn thread: this is likely a temporary move, intended to be used for rhetoric. Eventually the faculty will complain, because they rely on large pyramids of postdocs and grad students for almost all labor. There’s simply no way to continue the work of university research without a strong supply of grad students. Once this is realized, and the NIH doesn’t bend, then grad admissions will increase again, and admin cuts will start, as they should.