On: 2008 was a good year, now #13 in the US.

[staunch]

Yeah. I think there's a pretty dark side to the rise of POF that Markus has been less than forthcoming about.

[jasonlbaptiste → staunch]

how the hell is that dark? he's at number 13 or even 130, it's still a huge success. he didn't rip anyone off here. most startups in the consumer space that have a big rise have some form of what purists would call a "dark side".

[staunch → jasonlbaptiste]

Then call me a purist. I don't think you're right that "most" startups have a dark side. I'd guess that most don't. I'd rather be one of those.