I will say Microsoft is overly agrees installing Teams. When removing I find three different listing under add/remove programs. The App Store version Microsoft Teams, the Microsoft Teams system installer, and Microsoft Teams.
It then proceeds to try and set the default to auto-launch and request a Microsoft sign in at login.
This is aggressive, annoying and in at least to me comes off as desperate or in the least adwarey.
Installing the updated beta replaces the Office installed one. I don't know if it's possible to have the old Office installed one and the beta client at the same time.
Yet when I search for teams in the start menu, I get two entries for "Microsoft Teams (Work or school)". If I click on the one without "new", it'll launch the old one and ask me if I want to go back to the old one or keep using the new one.
I think you can uninstall the old one but by default just enabling the preview doesn't uninstall it. Or at least, that's the behavior I've seen on my machine (same as vladvasiliu).
I use it on Windows, and it's not the best application I've used, but I can't think of many meetings where I was unable to attend...maybe a minute of kill teams + restart. But, I hear it's more flaky on macos.
> can't think of many meetings where I was unable to attend
does this mean you can think of /some/ meetings you were unable to attend? I would assume that "doesn't work half the time" was slightly hyperbolic, and so it seems like your experience is roughly in line with the parent comment despite your response being worded like a rebuttal.
Yes, I'm saying over a couple years I can think of a few times where I had notable trouble. It's not great, but it's not on my top 10 list of troubles. It's also not terribly different from my historical experiences with webex and other similar software. Multi-person video chat tends to find the weak points (slow vpn, using during os updates, etc).
>lol, okay. so it's basically flawless.
I never understand what this kind of snark is meant to do. I didn't say anything like that at all.
just so we're on the same page, you think having to kill and restart while you're in or trying to join a chat or meeting doesn't count as notable trouble, because after all you were able to join eventually?
Comparatively, it our current world of mostly shitty software, occasionally having to restart my meeting software is not something I worry about much. Perhaps you meet more often than I do, so it's of relatively higher importance.
I don't think it matters how often you want to meet. When you do, you should want it to work. We're not talking about a side feature either, this is software for having meetings.
Microsoft is one of the wealthiest companies on this planet with decades upon decades of experience in software. Let's not pretend like their willingness to cut corners wherever they can and compromise on quality, as long as the profits keep coming in, is anything but an affront. Controlling the whole stack should make it easier to do this, but in reality monopolies have the opposite effect because capitalism has these averse incentives baked in. Yet another reason to bring back aggressive antitrust enforcement, i.e. break up big tech.
It then proceeds to try and set the default to auto-launch and request a Microsoft sign in at login.
This is aggressive, annoying and in at least to me comes off as desperate or in the least adwarey.