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Once you have kids, who might mistakenly choose an unlicensed unsafe taxi over a safe one, you might change your mind. Especially if it's your daughter - rape by unlicensed taxi drivers is a real risk.

This isn't about protecting joe from himself, it's about protecting vulnerable people who might make a poor decision just to save a bit of cash.

Similar to smoking - it's an expensive addiction (For the smoker and society) and should be actively discouraged. Also it's kinda nice not to have smokers blowing their smoke in mine+my kids faces any more.



I don't say this very often, but: Are you insane?! First of all, any argument that starts with "Once you have kids" isn't an argument at all; I knew I should have stopped there and saved myself money on blood pressure medication.

Secondly, why is it the Government's job (or anyone's job) to "protect vulnerable people who might--" okay, I can't even do this. That phrase means the same thing as "protect them from themselves" -- the individual makes a poor decision which affects the individual. Since it falls to a parent to make responsible decisions for an ignorant child, you've once again failed to make a point. "Once" I have kids (I like your finality), I will probably make sure to avoid having them raped to save $10. I could be wrong.

As for smoking, it is once again an individual choice. Were there no smokers, I'm sure there would be others ready and willing to use tax dollars to pay their medical expenses (which I have never done, and since I've given years of service to this country everyone can fuck off anyway). If a private establishment decides they wish, for whatever reason, to permit smoking on their property, that is a right the company rationally deserves and in no way warrants regulation by the Government or any other regulatory body.

If you prefer non-smoking establishments, show it with your wallet. If such a time came when it was detrimental to a business to afford said luxury to smokers, they would stop. What you feel is "kinda nice" should not warrant a law. It's called personal preference and we all have it. If all of my personal preferences were turned into law, there would be many changes to the world, most of which many people would conservatively call "cruel and unusual."


"the individual makes a poor decision which affects the individual" - except in the case of smoking where the poor decision also affects anyone else in the vicinity of the smoker, including those who have chosen not to smoke.


Everyone else in the vicinity of the smoker chose to be there, knowing that person was smoking. Back when it was legal, there wasn't some great mystery to it; you went to a bar where smoking was allowed, people were probably smoking. It's not like they waited for nonsmokers to fill up the place and all lit up in unison, attempting to lower life expectancy by a few seconds.

The smoker is smoking; a poor decision that affects them. You're in a smokey bar; a poor decision that affects you. The only difference is the smoker isn't complaining. There's no sense complaining about a situation one puts themselves in; there's even less sense in making laws which attempt to keep people from putting themselves in said situations.

A private establishment could force compulsory games of Russian Roulette for all I care. As long as there's a sign on the door.


I see, it was really the non-smokers making bad decisions - they should have all stayed at home.


Nice Bulverism Logical Fallacy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulverism


> rape by unlicensed taxi drivers is a real risk.

Well, I'd say it's as bad as rape by licensed taxi drivers.


"minicab rape" was a frequently enough occurance in London that there were frequent public service announcements before movies just last year, asking people not to take an unlicensed cab, showing how you risk getting raped otherwise. ("minicab" here is any other cab than the usual bulky black London cab).


Not around here, but ymmv.


My partner's reaction to this was similar but converse: "finally, hitchhiking murderers no longer have wait out in awful weather!"

I mean, this is all hyperbole today. Do I think this is the way deregulation should work, with someone just up and deciding to ignore it and forcing some ad hoc response? No. Do I think it's a big enough deal right now to waste time outlawing? No. Would I fund it? No.


You do realize that usually its the hitchhiker that gets murdered by the person with the car.


Yes, I believe that is his point, and the reason I used the word "converse". :P




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