Deno Deploy is the killer feature for me, and it’s ultimately the main product of Deno, Inc. too. Node support just makes it easier to get existing software running there.
I don’t think it will suffer the same fate as Kotlin because a lot of the value add is in Deploy, Deno KV, etc.
Yeah i guess i kind of did., I should have asked the parent comment. I'm not a java/kotlin developer but for me it looks like kotlin is thriving. Is that not how it looks for insider's?
Parent here, and I'm writing as someone who loves Kotlin and much prefers it to Java.
Kotlin is doing fine, but its growth has slowed a lot and the team is pivoting rapidly to multiplatform to try forge a niche that isn't just "better Java". That pivot isn't smooth because most Kotlin code—even the standard library—depends heavily on the JVM and Java libraries.
I didn't mean "fate" to imply that Kotlin as a language is dying, just that their position as "better Java" is no longer tenable and they've had to shift strategy dramatically to try to stay relevant. That's what I'm afraid will happen to Deno as Node catches up.
I don’t think it will suffer the same fate as Kotlin because a lot of the value add is in Deploy, Deno KV, etc.