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A significant percentage of random average people have no practical understanding of economics, and no ability to think of consequences to policy.

Granted, neither do a significant percentage of the currently serving congress if current policy is anything to go by.




> Granted, neither do a significant percentage of the currently serving congress if current policy is anything to go by.

I think they understand just fine, most of the time, but are more interested in enriching themselves and their cronies than looking out for their constituents or the health of the system as a whole.


> A significant percentage of random average people have no practical understanding of economics, and no ability to think of consequences to policy.

unfortunately, this is also true of our elected officials


What about both?

Take the existing system and have the house and Senate argue every official act to the sortition for a vote. How would this be worse than the current crony capitalism we suffer under?


Perhaps have a third stage (after the senate) that is the sortition that has to approve a bill.


Regardless of whether one may like the initial selection criteria or not, what you describe is precisely why the country (USA) was supposed to be led by land owning free white men. The assumption being that people that fit that criteria, plausibly possessed a requisite initial selection criteria set of skills and knowledge that would constitute the pool of best qualified people to run a government in the common interest. From that pool of people their peers would further select amongst each other using those very same abilities, knowledge, skills, and capacities to further choose the utmost best person to lead.

I realize that just saying that may cause some consternation among some, but it is objectively the best selection system one could possibly devise, for any people anywhere, regardless of whether people like it or not.

It's not even a selection system that is not used all over the place from choices within your family where there are certain prerequisites like being an adult or a parent or having to be a member of the union in order to vote on union matters, or having achieved certain certifications and qualifications before you can make decisions about building a highway bridge.

It is and has not been a net benefit to any of us that "democracy" was first imposed and then expanded when the founders of the USA were very explicit about the fact that democracy was a recipe for disaster and would invariably cause destruction … as it has. Personally, I would very much have been ok with benefitting from properly qualified people making decision for me that I have no competent capacity to make for myself, rather than having lived in a society where everyone thinks they are equally smart and competent and my vote counts the same as some fool who does not know that a week is seven days (something I heard someone in her early 20s say yesterday. She thought the week excludes the weekend)


The destruction to the Founder's political vision didn't come from expanding the franchise, it came direct democracy. The idea was explicitly that the average voter was completely unqualified to choose the President, and that the only question the voter would be asked is: "Who in your town should make decisions for you?" That person would go to your state legislature, which would vote for your state's electors, who would go and deliberatively decide the President. With the 17th Amendment and binding primary elections we threw out that wisdom.


> but it is objectively the best selection system one could possibly devise

Your determination of objectivity seems a little... subjective.

Maybe this was objectively best at the time but at minimum the race part seems to no longer be true.


> Regardless of whether one may like the initial selection criteria or not, what you describe is precisely why the country (USA) was supposed to be led by land owning free white men.

> I realize that just saying that may cause some consternation among some, but it is objectively the best selection system one could possibly devise

Combining these two statements suggests that you would advocate for white supremacy. Is that a correct deduction of mine? I would rather ask than just jump to conclusions.


Democracy≠republic

The career politicians, intelligencia, and c-suite technocrats have been running shit for the past half century or more - you see where it's gotten us, to the ruin you describe.


The self-same perfect and wise and gosh-darn handsome founders included an amendment mechanism. You might like to take your complaint up with them.




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