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Holy hell those comments though. Talk about a swamp.



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Funny how "I should be able to say what I please" and "I should be able to say what I please AND have no-one challenge me or criticise me" are so conflated. Don't dish it if you can't take it.


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I’m downvoting you because the person said the comments were a swamp, not that they shouldn’t exist. You interpreted it as the letter which is clearly incorrect.


I'm downvoting you because you're trying to shame the people who are doing so, and I'm Spartacus.


I'm downvoting you because of the blatant snark. It's not cool here according to the site guidelines and my own opinion.


For the record, I downvoted that comment because it was flippant and pointless, not because I disagreed with it.


Downvoting is a form of criticism.


I downvoted you because you’re wrong and harmful.


Please don't break the site guidelines against calling names and personal attacks, regardless of how wrong someone is or you feel they are.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


Acknowledging that some of the comments there are pretty messed up is not the same thing as advocating for censorship.

Criticism isn't censorship, criticism is free speech.


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There were lots of legitimate reasons to downvote your GP comment. It was unsubstantive and flamebait, and broke other guidelines as well. You spawned a low-quality mess. This is not the discussion we're looking for here.

Also, using quotation marks to make it look like you're quoting someone when you're not is an internet flamewar trope that we try to avoid here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


Freedom of speech is the right to speak, it is not the right to be heard. Your audience is effectively walking away from your soapbox. Censorship is when there is interference between a speaker and an audience that would otherwise be captivated.

Nobody here is interested in Trump's lies. Nobody here is interested in hearing his lies being perpetuated. We are not interested and we are not a captivated audience.


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And I am not complaining about it being downvoted. If HN doesn't want to hear it, then I am fine with that. Regardless, please check the comments guidelines[1].

> Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading.

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


I'd also point out that you can always enable 'showdead' in the settings.

That will allow you to see all comments (unless creator deleted). As such, they're not really being censored, they're just hidden unless and until you decide you want to see them.


I don't think that's a good faith take at all. "You're an idiot for saying that" is not the same as "You should have your rights taken away". But go off.




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