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It's a business failure. That's all he's saying. He's not calling himself a failure. When we say things like, "oh, that's not really a failure", when we highlight these moral victories, we delude people who are considering starting companies.


Business failure = chapter 11, not selling it for a less than spectacular price.


No, Jacques. Re-read his comment. If I buy CSCO at 20 and sell it at 15, it isn't a decent investment just because I was able to offload it.


How would you label cuil?


I don't know, I didn't follow cuil that closely. My understanding is they took significant VC. So their team probably got paid close to market salary. So, if they returned all the capital to investors, they "didn't fail", and if they didn't return capital, they did.




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