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Yea, five years ago these conversations used to have a lot of "University is about being a well-rounded human", and my response would be "I'm a a bigger believer in that than most, but ask yourself whether playacting some aristocratic fledgling is worth 100-200k".

It seems like as the situation has become more universal and more central to the national conversation, the pendulum has again flipped, and I rarely see people mention the benefits of university beyond job training.



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