How does that video show more progress than the self-driving demo that's been on the Tesla Autopilot homepage since 2016 [0]? The 2016 version seems to feature much more in-town driving, including interaction with pedestrians, whereas the newest demo seems to be mostly highway driving?
Rolling around a road, in broad daylight, with no adverse conditions and no "interesting" events isn't progress.
yes, merging onto a freeway is mildly impressive, but its not anywhere near state of the art.
What I'd like to see is what happens when someone swerves out in front of the car? does it stop dead? or panic and hand back control to the driver, just in time to crash? What about rain, or snow?
How does it handle diversions? what about new roads?
None of this is really about hardware, sure more power helps, as does sensors with lower noise floors and greater pre-processing. The difficult part is, and has always been, software.
What Tesla is doing is knowingly allow people to to unsafe software to gather scenarios that can be used as learning events. Not only that, they are getting people to pay a premium. I imagine that tesla will then rent the next generation of trained models back to the drivers, even though they paid for, and provided the training set.
> What Tesla is doing is knowingly allow people to to unsafe software to gather scenarios that can be used as learning events. Not only that, they are getting people to pay a premium. I imagine that tesla will then rent the next generation of trained models back to the drivers, even though they paid for, and provided the training set.
As a Model S owner with over 10k miles on Autopilot, I take issue with you calling the software unsafe (I have never once had a disengagement that caused a safety issue), and I am happy to pay a premium to contribute to what I consider progress. I would happily pay more. Waymo vehicles aren't available to anyone buy a few beta testers. Tesla Autopilot neural net improvements are available to everyone in the fleet.
I am glad you are happy. As someone who paid >$100k for a new car, of course you are going to get _free_ upgrades.
But, it is immoral to ship something thats barely level 2 and market it as an autopilot. Yes, they have made great strides, but tesla basically gambled that no one would crash.
This is the issue I have with our industry. That kind of slapdash "lets work 100 hour weeks and ship anyway, yes the target is impossible but a broken MVP is better than no MVP" is fine for a webapp. But for life critical software, no, no its not.
If you as a consumer think “Autopilot” means full autonomy, you are undereducated and/or misinformed. That’s not Tesla’s fault, and they don’t advertise Autopilot as such, either on their website or in the numerous warnings in the vehicle interface. I don’t agree it’s immoral to ship what they’re shipping calling it Autopilot.
I do agree much more work needs to go into how life critical systems are developed and deployed, but impressed at Tesla’s development velocity without sacrificing safety (as evidenced by so few deaths in Tesla vehicles overall).
That video is less impressive than the one they released in 2016 using off-the-shelf hardware and software from Nvidia. The only progress it shows is that they have almost replicated the state-of-the-art circa 3 years ago when shown on one of the easiest pre-planned routes possible.
Depends on the state. In Colorado passing on the right is legal (though I personally find it barbaric).
However, Colorado has a "left lane law" that applies on two+ lane highways with speed limits above 65mph. It is illegal to impede traffic in the passing lane, even if you're going the speed limit.
https://codes.findlaw.com/co/title-42-vehicles-and-traffic/c...
A different law requires drivers in the passing lane driving below normal and reasonable speed, to change lanes (move to the right or pull off the road). If you're driving at the speed limit, it's by definition not less than normal or reasonable. And prior to the "left lane law" state patrol couldn't do anything about impeded left lane traffic so long as the impeding vehicle was moving at the speed limit, but since the 2004 "left lane law" you can be ticketed for impeding traffic in the passing lane even if you're driving at the speed limit (and you were always subject to ticketing if you were driving below the speed limit in the passing lane).
That link seems to say that you must pass on the left unless "An open highway is clearly marked for two or more lanes of travel in your direction." and another reason.
I guess the multi-lane open highway is the reason it's ok? Does that make those multi-lane open highways a free for all? No concept of a fast lane, overtake wherever you choose?
Arkansas, Illinois, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Massachusetts, New Jersey (My note: In 20 years of driving in Illinois, I have never been cited for passing on the right)
