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It's because -in general- marketing material doesn't tell the whole truth, just the selected bit that sounds impressive.


but still there's quite some difference in the fine prints between a new MacBook being "two times faster than previous model#" and a Tesla "comes with full self driving hardware&"

# only on specific workloads

& don't ever get distracted because it can literally kill you


this is the point I see getting lost. This isn't someone overstating the how good a pair of pants make me look. It's more like selling a flame thrower as a weeding tool.

I know that sometimes these lines are objective, but acting like you can't tell okay and not okay apart because the line is gray in some cases just seems to be bad faith.

If you are okay with Tesla misleading selling a prototype feature in the name of disruption, own your argument. If this level of risk is just okay to you because of the potential long term upsides...I disagree but I respect your willingness to say it. Just don't make a different one because you are afraid of the social consequences of your actual point.


Don't you mean selling a weeding tool as a "flame thrower" ?


What you describe would be a disappointment. What he describe would be life-threatening.


Tesla did actually sell a propane torch that's a weeding tool (or asphalt surfacing tool, paint stripping tool etc) and they called it a flamethrower


Flamethrowers are regularly used as weeding tools though. The best way to kill weeds on the edge of a field or a ditch is to burn them.


Thank you for the assist.


Which, unfortunately, doesn't excuse them when users take Tesla at their word that their Autopilot feature is fully self-driving and end up in an accident and/or dead.


Is this hyperbole, or do you think Tesla actually said that?


Yeah and the auto dealer industry is notoriously deceptive too. Telsa told us they'd be different. Well they're not selling cars through dealers, that much is true, but it seems clear the deception is still in force.


That's probably very true but this isn't about the dealer as much as the manufacturer. When one says they have 4 crumple zones to absorb the energy of an impact and you later find out that the passengers were those crumple zones, someone goes to prison. When Tesla claims that their system is fully self driving at a level safer than a human driver they're doing the same. Because they know very well that system is just a glorified driver assist that can do any kind of driving only in the most narrow and perfect of conditions. Take it out of that narrow Autopilot "comfort zone" and you have plain old driver assist.




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