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Does this mean that analytics will also be blocked? If it is true it will be a shot in the foot, because Google pays a lot of money to Mozilla. Translated automatically.



Firefox/Mozilla is not as reliant on Google anymore as it once was, having diversified which search engine gets set in which area. There would also still be a reason for google to be the default search engine even in a browser that blocks third party trackers by default, namely the original reason of getting users to use your search engine. So I don't see a problem here and I doubt Google would or could force Mozilla to not make that change, even though the business people in Google probably don't like it.


Mozilla released the extension "Facebook Container", which is great, but that's only one of the FANG companies notorious for invading privacy. Where is the "Google Container" extension from Mozilla? There exists such an extension but it's by a third party, not by Mozilla. It would be nice to see it from Mozilla since I trust them more than I trust some random extension developer; I can feel confident in recommending Facebook Container to people but I'd have to keep up on the reputation and ownership of the Google Container extension to feel good about recommending it to others.

I guess what I'm saying is it would be nice for Mozilla to be a bit more bold in demonstrating this independence from Google. It seems to me they still fear/respect Google more than Facebook.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/facebook-cont...

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/google-contai...


Those container extensions are just the "Firefox Multi-Account Containers" extension developed by Mozilla with some default settings for Facebook and Google.

https://github.com/mozilla/multi-account-containers


Yup, and I use it religiously. I keep my work Google account separate from my personal Google account, which is separate from everything else. If I don't trust it, it gets a separate container.


Putting Facebook in a box is easier for many people because they have fewer things that are connected to their Facebook. Any such things break with containerisation. Firefox spells that out, but people will be surprised anyway.

Let's give a real world example. I use Facebook container. I also have YouTube premium. So, normally I don't see YouTube adverts because I'm logged into my account with Premium.

But inside the Facebook container, I am an anonymous YouTube user, with no Premium account. So if a user embeds a YouTube video, it has adverts.

Now, if I used the Google Container, all YouTube videos, other than on YouTube itself, would be anonymous and so have adverts.

There's a lot more integration like this for Google than Facebook, and so the experience with containers is worse for Google than Facebook.


One of the main reasons to use Firefox these days is to be more free from the tentacles of Google. So this move is a logical step in the right direction. If you're OK with being permanently tracked by Google, you might as well use Chrome.


One might also want to use Firefox to resist against a Chrome monopoly. I do use Firefox for both reasons.

The fact that I prefer it to Chrome also for convenience and practical reasons helps a lot of course.


All trackers are equal, but some trackers are more equal than others.




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