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I guess this is one way to make a living. Is it sustainable? Is it gratifying? Is it scalable?

The guy is a hustler, I can appreciate that. He works for himself, I can appreciate that.

However if lots of other people try to do the same thing then does all the competition create a situation where lots of people are squabbling over a few crumbs? It looks like its a niche. And its only a matter of time others try to muscle in on his turf.




> Is it sustainable? Is it gratifying? Is it scalable?

Why does Western Society have a fixation on only doing things that make sense for the rest of your life?

Who cares how long it will last. Who cares about The rest of your life. Do something that's interesting NOW.

Let him enjoy it for however long he wants. When he doesn't enjoy it, or it doesn't work anymore, he'll find something else to do that he finds interesting. That's great for him! Maybe it's not the life you want, but that's not what we're talking about.


Because "in a day" carries the implication "Man makes $2500 every day doing this one simple trick". That's why it's in the headline.

"Man made $2500 doing X once, never to be repeated again" or "Man made $2500 in a year doing X" might be equally true headlines, but a lot less attention grabbing.


"$XXXX in a day" does not carry any such implication to myself, "$XXXX a day" would, but that phrasing seems to have been deliberately avoided -- and even had it been used I'd have to seriously investigate the context of such a headline before concluding the editor that has chosen such a headline thinks that this is something sustainable, scalable, and robust to sudden competition (... given such a thing is quite implausible in general).


I stand by what I wrote. The human mind is generally not that rational and literal, especially when scanning a long list of headlines. The brain sees "$2500", "a day", subconsciously makes a connection that $2500 is more than the reader typically makes in a day, interest is created, link is clicked. No one proceeds to conclude that man is earning $912,500/year, but the connection is made and it's quite intentional from the headline writer.

Here's another example:

"Man makes $2500 in a day by buying a lottery ticket".

That is a weird sentence, because buying a winning lottery ticket is a discrete, non-reproducible event - so why include "in a day", unless it is to suggest something to the reader?

Or another one:

"Man makes $2500 in a day by winning competition after preparing for months" - you can see where I'm going with this.


Theory on why western society has a fixation on only doing things that make sense for the rest of your life: There is no longer a strong generational support system for people such that they can be assured that they have a roof over their head and food to eat after retirement age.

If you have a strong generational support system then I think the focus can shift onto what you want to do now versus what you need to do for later.


No longer? When was there ever? What was the system providing a roof over your head in the 30's or 40's? Or for that matter 1830's? Religion?

No, what's changed is expectation. In the 1830's a lot of people just got old and died, were impoverished and angry about it, but what were they going to do? Now we have widespread literacy and a middle class that doesn't expect poverty until you die as a retirement plan.


> No longer? When was there ever? What was the system providing a roof over your head in the 30's or 40's? Or for that matter 1830's? Religion?

Yes, family and religion. I don't think American society was ever as multi-generational as in Asia or Europe. But, yes, AFAIU back then it was much more common for immediate and even distant families to live under the same roof, long-term or temporarily. Grandpa or Uncle Charlie too old to live alone after being widowed? Move him into your guest room. No hand-wringing negotiation required; no serious disruption to lifestyle.

My grandfather rented his basement to his best friend for years until the friend married, and then the two couples were best friends. It wasn't that the friend had fell on hard times or was wanting for anything; it was just because people back then demanded less personal space and were more comfortable living near or with each other. These days moving into your friends basement is practically a moral failing. I guess maybe because as society has become more diverse we have fewer signals to different in-group people from out-group people; we've been reduced to relying on independence and wealth as the most important markers of people's character.


Yes, there was before XX century. It was called "family". Most people used to live with their extended family, multiple generations in the same area.


> Why does Western Society have a fixation on only doing things that make sense for the rest of your life?

It's not western society, it's the ethos of the upper-middle class of western society, which emphasizes not only career stability but intergenerational success. And of course it's also concerned with differentiating itself from lower classes, thus the skepticism/condescension.

Poor and working-class Americans don't talk like that because their time horizons are as equally short as Chinese and Russian hustlers/go-getters.


I found a $100 walking outside one time. Let's have an article that says a walk earns you $100


I'm not sure what your hostility is for. It's a question of relevance to this forum specifically. Thanks for the downvote.

You railing against "Western Society" strikes me as off base, like you have an axe to grind. It doesn't matter to me if he does it once or for the rest of his life. That not why people post stuff like this to hacker.

However what does matter is this video was shared on HACKER NEWS, probably because of its entrepreneurial based content. Most of the links posted here have some sort of connection to either technology, science and/or entrepreneurship. It's not the latest javascript library, but he is using eBay + hustle to brick and mortar stores to generate revenue.

The question is it's relevance to this forum. The guy is trying to make a business, and exploiting gap between supply and demand. That part is interesting. The reason why it's relevant is "can anyone use this video to recreate a similar business?"

Is this video demonstration of a potential service a sustainable, repeatable and potentially scalable business model for others to emulate on this forum? My humble take on it is NO IT IS NOT.

> Who cares how long it will last

Literally most of the people who come to hacker news. We're not to watch some guy drive 700 miles to 20 Walmarts to buy 100+ monopoly board games. Most of us are interested to see if this can be a real business idea.

Which is why I conceded certain points about the idea. He's working for himself. He's hustling. I don't know if he does this full time or in addition to his regular job. There is something impressive to what he's doing. Making $2500 over the course of a weekend is pretty impressive. And if you could keep making $2500 per weekend doing this kind of thing that would be of interest to me, even if it isn't my thing.


I didn't mean any hostility.

I've been moving around Africa for 2.5 years now, and often things from "Western Society" strike me as quite odd or strange. The longer I stay here the more obvious it is how severely broken "our" society really is.

Often I see "Western people" promoting things that don't generate happiness, and attacking things that do generate happiness, and I feel inclined to question that, because that doesn't seem like the right thing to do.


I'm not sure what your hostility is for.

I would assume because he isn’t doing something sustainable or long term so he takes any criticism of that personally?


Late reply, but my take is that he wasn't being hostile. He had a genuine question about why that should matter.

And I agree with him. Not everything needs to be sustainable. Not everything needs to be profitable over the long haul. Sometimes getting set up to take advantage of a one-time event (e.g., "Snowcopalypse" T-Shirts) with a short horizon is worth doing and worth studying for future opportunities.

My personal take on what he's saying is "adapt or die."


Maybe because now tends to become the rest of your life.


The really stupid move was bragging about it online, now he's going to get competition.


Ah, but now he can get into the business of selling how-to guides on the subject.


Yup. A good pivot if the profits in original activity dry out. Mine out all the gold, tell people there still may be some, and sell shovels to suckers.


Which make even more money. We are going to see(hear) him on all those business podcast.


Ha.. another none scalable business idea


I'd say selling stuff to idiots is a pretty scalable business idea.


Although his video does have 130k views and I'm sure he picked up a ton of subscribers too...... So he's making money there too.


How much money does YouTube pay out to someone per 100k views? I'm betting the answer is much lower than we suspect.


Very hard to calculate. Two different YouTubers can get wildly different ad revenues for those same 100k views.


Going payout is around $.80/1000 views from what I've heard.


I don't doubt you, but I've heard a wide range of numbers. What I've never seen is a screenshot of someones actually stats. Maybe I'm not looking, maybe it's against TOS, maybe no one wants to share because it's not as good as it seems.


It's definitely against their rules to publicly tell people how much youtube's paying you. 0.50-1.00 USD per 1k is also the range I've heard. But there are ways you can completely screw yourself over... If you get a copyright notice on the video, even a false/automated one, you don't get anything until it's resolved. If you're a popular channel most of your views are going to be within the first 48 hours, and the money you would have gotten within that time is gone.

The last time I checked, your videos can also be de-monitized randomly without notifying you, because they "may not be suitable for advertising". This is done by bots 99% of the time and you'll have to have the video reviewed manually before you can run ads again (Yes, they're actually trying to get bots to recognize offensive content, and it's done with the content itself, not just the video title/desc).

I also once saw someone do a video subtitle/translation and strike the original owner for copyright infringement. Whether this was accidental or not I don't know, but it took days to resolve.

(this post is accurate based on how youtube worked ~6 months ago, it's possible they've changed things but I'm not betting on it)


There's a small time news guy named Tim Pool that I enjoy watching on YT. He has taken to silly things like saying "items which move projectiles at very rapid speeds" instead of "gun" when presenting a news story because the Google AI automatically demonetizes his news stories if the voice recognition hears the word "gun." He has to do this for any potentially controversial words.


> I guess this is one way to make a living. Is it sustainable? Is it gratifying? Is it scalable?

Is being a waiter, or a checkout clerk, or a fast food employee, or a Chili's line cook?


I remember when the PS3 came out. There were a lot of people who were convinced it was going to be in real short supply so bought multiple at midnight launch to sell them on ebay. Unfortunately the demand wasn't really there and a lot of them ended up selling for below cost.


Do you mean PS4? PS3s were very hard to get at the start.

3 PS3s guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sjhjFOw4Ok


No, it was PS3s. Here is an article about it from the time: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2006/12/6406/ the Wii unexpectedly ended up being the real in demand system that Christmas.


> No, it was PS3s. Here is an article about it from the time: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2006/12/6406/

It doesn't say they had to sell at a loss, just that they didn't get the ridiculous markup they hoped for.

The PS3 really was in short supply and prices did remain elevated. The article mentions that.


Yup it's gotten harder and harder as more people enter the industry and Amazon makes it tougher to sell and raises fees




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