It doesn't count when people say we should just open up the borders to anyone that claims that their country is poor or that life in Mexico kind of sucks. I feel bad for them, but that doesn't mean we can take care of them over here. So the "let's let all of Mexico in and we can hold hands and sing kum ba yah" position is not defensible.
Also, why the quotes around "illegal"? When you enter a country illegally, you are an illegal immigrant. Has PC culture gotten so out of hand that simply using the proper legal terminology is now offensive?
Where was my personal attack and incivility? Myself and downandout completely disagree but neither of us where uncivil or attacking each other.
I chose to stop responding before it became a flame war, I have no idea why you would go through this thread, and downvote and flag both of us. What are you talking about?
Well, for starters, "So yeah, everything you disagree with doesn't count. Thanks for wasting my time." is entirely uncivil by HN standards. So are "Grow up", "arguing with you is just a waste of time", and other things you've posted. Also, these comments are lacking in information other than that you're irritated, so they're unsubstantive in addition to uncivil.
As we tell everyone, please post civilly and substantively, or not at all. It isn't hard, but it requires wanting to use the site as intended.
That's a pretty nasty imputation so I don't want to let it go unanswered. Obviously "threads full of misogyny" are not fine.
Equally obviously, other people behaving badly doesn't make it ok for you to.
I’m not sure how I’ve done that. I was asking a question; I’m trying to understand a position that many seem to have (being in favor of illegal immigration) that seems unfathomable to me.
Well, I downvoted your above comment, in part because it unfairly accuses the mods of corruption on no real basis, basically. And I'm not a mod.
So, on your side, you have some fancy term for "inference" to justify your ugly accusation. On my side, I have solid evidence that not all downvotes are from the mods because I know what I did.
