On: Telegram told to give encryption keys to Russian authorities

[krick]

Skipping discussion about "actual security": vendor lock-in & network effects. None of my peers uses Signal for everyday communication. Quite a few use Telegram, +Telegram channels & conferences, bots, and, well, honestly, it's really quite nice app to use. So, yeah. It's sad.

[zzzcpan → krick]

But in fairness, you cannot really claim that Signal is actually secure just because it has a better encryption.

[literallycancer → zzzcpan]

True. Then again, Telegram really has no encryption at all, since no one uses the secret chats. So he probably meant something like "why not use an app that actually tries to do what it claims to?".

[eitland → literallycancer]

It actually has encryption. Just not end-to-end by default.

[krick → zzzcpan]

That's why I chose to skip discussion about "actual security" in favor of answering the actual question somebody asked. I agree with your point completely.