The idea of listing "Help Needed" and "Can Help" is a good idea to facilitate conversations. Helps lubricate the otherwise awkward encounter with strangers.
I think the issue onwards will be similar to those of any community-based websites.
1) maintaining the quality of the community members. The usage of HN is a better source of demarcation compared to the low-barrier registration requirement of just signing up in typical social networks. So long as HN keeps attracting engagement from good people and weeds out undesirable usage, Kismet is likely to continue benefiting from HN's demographics.
2) retention of active users. People can get tired of using social apps once the novelty wears off. It would be prudent to encourage each interaction to be interesting and inspired so that users are happy to open messages from Kismet, especially since the app will reside in the email inbox that is typically inundated with other messages.
3) recruiting new users. Looks like Kismet had just come into existence, when users who provide the interaction amongst each other are lacking. It would be worthwhile considering how Kismet will make itself known among HNers without relying on posting a "Show HN" periodically. Promotions can aim for wider awareness but should be aware of 1) and still keep a reasonable barrier of entry to maintain userbase quality. Perhaps referrals for organic growth, but how?
Boy, I wish there were more ways to meet smart strangers.
Congrats and thanks for the launch.
P.S. Feature request: Location info (e.g. City) to find/match with users in proximity feasible for a coffee meetup
Bug: Can't seem to update user info after initial registration
This, 100%. Eventually every social media platform becomes overrun with people whom I have nothing in common with, causing me to eventually disengage.
Can any one suggest any online communities that are at the same cerebral level as HN?
Right now though, I'm signing up to this Kismet thing.
It leans left, and the userbase can be quite critical of information technology especially bro culture.
Last I checked, Metafilter has active meetups in different cities even outside the US.
The userbase comes from diverse backgrounds skewing toward the highly literate.
It costs US 5$ to create an account. Best 5$ I’ve ever spent.
EDIT: Fix typo.
Would love to have a version that goes “full tinder” even (no pics, just the same sort of simple bio as this, but with tinder’s “swiping” approach for quick elaboration).
The driving values for something like this should be quality above quantity, depths not shallows, long-term not short-term etc.
Weekly would be better
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Consider a rename?
I am a woman. I have been here a long time, about 8.5 years. My hope that HN would provide online networking has not panned out satisfactorily. If this works for me, it will get recommended in my profile and possibly on my blog.
Sexism is definitely an issue in the world. Most of the time, I am much more interested in finding solutions than in pointing fingers.
As I said elsewhere in this discussion, HN has largely failed as a networking tool for me and I can occasionally email about three people from here. I appear to be the only woman who has ever made it to the leaderboard (under a different handle). Meanwhile, in a different discussion in the last few hours, a man on the leaderboard casually commented that he has met quite a few members of HN IRL.
My understanding is he is a self made millionaire. In contrast, I am quite poor.
My inability to effectively network appears to be at least partly due to my gender and the tendency of men to interpret overtures from me as an opportunity for romance. Men who view me in such terms never become business contacts. It is an absolute dead end for me.
Then when I complain that sexism on HN is partly responsible for my intractable poverty, I am treated like a lunatic. I don't know how much more painfully obvious it could possibly be. I was homeless when I became the highest karma openly female member here and hit the leaderboard about a month after I got off the street. Yet I continue to get treated like I am just hallucinating some connection between my gender, my inability to effectively make professional connections and my lack of adequate income.
And never mind how many articles like this hit the front page: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16389666 No, I must just be nuts or something.
I must apology for im usually one, vehemently defending freedom of speach. The reason for this is that i love the internet, before the whole world decided to crash the party. It was a great place- insofar, as people who usually would be shunned by society could meet one another and create works- overcoming social isolation.
Let me expand on this- they guy who lifes over the street from my aunt. He is nuts, never goes outside, except at night to smoke - where he runs screaming in panic, should anyone on the street come even close to his door.
In some poorer country he would be homeless- and for society useless. Now turns out that- even with shizophrenia - he has a state that cares for him- he has a sister that cares for him, and he has the internet, to work and communicate. And thus he can contribute to academia.
Now, such a social mess- will never fullfill the needs for a social silod suburbia, in fact he cant. So if i promise to try to solve your networking and integrating problem- will you stop trying to harass the social misfits and otucasts who are incapable of fitting in?
Sad to see that even making the leaderboard as a woman fails to get community support when I need it in the face of ugliness of this sort. It's both ironic and maddening that your comment has gotten zero push back from the community though it is essentially evidence of the very thing I am criticizing.
I hope Kismet won't eventually start spamming me with "fun", "personalized" mass messages that have emojis in the subject line and advertisements from partners in the message body, like so many others these days.
Clipboard copy link did not work on iOS/Chrome, had to go back and copy manually. Profile edit fields were hard to edit in iOS/Chrome, they don't scroll horizontally.
I'm fine with auth-by-email, but should be time limited, I feel a little odd about permanent-link-for-auth.
Auth-by-profile-edit should include an "X-Kismet" tag or something, to prevent another service using similar auth style but actually grabbing a Kismet token and serving that to the user without their knowledge that it's a Kismet token, see what I mean? Or maybe I'm just being overly paranoid. Which is an achievement, since I'm usually pretty cowboy about these things. :-)
I have similar feelings about the link for auth. It'll almost certainly change on the next version!
I wouldn't want to feel obliged to contact every "match" if they don't seem interesting to me (and vice versa) but there might be such an obligation if they knew I'd got them.
For checking the profile, please use shorter codes or increase the size of the <input> that displays the code. I ran into a bug by accidentally selecting part of the code, not realizing that it scrolled on..
Sadly, it doesn't seem to handle non-ASCII characters. I entered my name, Cristi Burcă, and it got saved as Cristi Burc?.
I get too much of that as is. I am hoping this service is the solution to my problem that when I say to a guy "Let's talk!" or "You can email me", about 99% of the time that is interpreted as an opportunity to hit on me. No, me saying I would be willing to discuss X specific issue further is absolutely not code for "I am looking for romance and I especially enjoy being treated like an airhead and sex object." (There was a recent incident and I am still pretty wrapped around the axle about it.)
I have been here 8.5 years. There are about three people I can email occasionally. No, that distinctly does not include certain folks on the leaderboard magnanimously inviting anyone on HN to contact them, they would love to talk to you. And I am getting pretty fed up with being patient and wondering what I, personally, can do differently. That isn't getting sufficient results.
I strongly suspect most female members of HN will have similar feelings on the matter, which is the only reason I am mentioning it. So treating it as a dating service probably won't go well.
We know the model web social networks use.
I do think a week would probably be a better default setting.
Can I take the hash out of my profile?
Match interval settings are in the works; in the meantime there is a ‘snooze’ feature that will pause matches for 5 days. The link is in every message.
They think you can get a buddy, find friends, be not lonely anymore with a single click. FB, Instagram, Tinder and today's Show HN seem to be simple fixes to break out of loneliness.
They are all like sweets—they are tempting, tasty and shortly after consumed you are hungry again. Hungry for social encounters. So you consume them again and the vicious cycles starts.
Building real-life relationships is not easy. There are many ways to get there. A pure online play is not the answer.
I disagree. Personally I've found that real life friendships are much more fickle, many disintegrate because of distance, or time, or some other reason. On the contrary, the people whom I have made friends with through the internet, through for example, IRC or Slack. Have become much more long lasting, and quite lengthy. Even if one of us does not respond or get a response from the other for a couple of months, it does not matter. One of us eventually reconnects or bumps the conversation and we resume practically where we left off. Most of my real life friends have difficulty even responding online.
Sure, this is not a cure-all for loneliness, but such a thing does not exist in this world. At some point we shall all be lonely for some time, even the most devoted partner gets busy or has things to do. It is not the cure-all, but these 'pocket friends', like all friends, help.
This kind of interaction does not fit my description for a friendship.
>Most of my real life friends have difficulty even responding online
Is taking one month to reply on IRC not to "have difficulty even responding online?"
It depends on your age. A huge chunk of my friends are in University right now, so they have very little time to dedicate to social interactions, and when they do, there is pressure for it to be physical interaction.
In addition, many of my friends are suffering with various forms of illnesses and depression, and a lot of them are makers, that delve into projects headfirst. All of which can sometimes create long gaps in contact.
An app that introduces two people and says “Be friends you two!” can’t be the answer: Agree.
"what chance did I stand against kismet?"
added the google search definition:
I personally have always felt it had a romantic undertone to it.
I second a name change. How about http://hn.chat?