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Obamacare is not a terrible idea, it's a transitional idea as we're already doing this with insurance; it's an evolution of the system in the right direction, it's not a final solution. Add a national exchange, offer a public option, bam medicade for all.



bam medicade for all.

That is called single payer, government provided coverage. I would support that.

That is not remotely what Obamacare does. Obamacare requires private insurance to cover people with pre-existing conditions and it requires everyone to buy private insurance. It is busted as all fuck and I would like to see it go die in a fire.

I am aware what we were doing before Obamacare sucks and we need a real solution and to not simply go back to that. But this is not a real solution.


Of course it's not what Obamacare does, you can't go from a private insurance market to a single payer government system in one single step. Obamacare is the transition between the two.

> Obamacare requires private insurance to cover people with pre-existing conditions and it requires everyone to buy private insurance.

So does single payer, we just call "buying" taxes and we replace insurers with government. You're still forced to pay and the insurer is still forced to provide for everyone regardless of pre-existing conditions. So it would seem you're simply against the name Obamacare.

> But this is not a real solution.

It's not supposed to be, everyone isn't blind, they see that single payer is the solution, but you can't simply declare the private insurance industry we already have dead in one fell swoop. Obamacare or something just like Obamacare is a necessary step to get to single payer. We need to get everyone into a public option, and then have that option slowly kill off private insurance by simply operating cheaper than they can until the public option is pretty much what is insuring everyone, at that point, it's effectively single payer.




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