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> Another mistake people make is thinking that burning out is like dying, and you can't recover.

Speak for yourself, buddy. I'm still trying to overcome medical issues from my last bout with burnout, including sleep disturbances and stress-related gastritis, and so far the medical profession hasn't had much luck in dealing with any of them.

Burnout and the stress that goes along with it can absolutely do lasting damage to your body.




You just answered a question that has been on my mind. I did not even realize these were affects of stress.


I highly recommend "How to Stop Worrying and Start Living" by Dale Carnegie. It's helped me manage stress.


Oh now my recent state makes sense. I very recently had an endoscopy after vomiting blood, turned out my stomach lining that had become so inflamed it had slightly torn and had started to bleed. I couldn't really think what it could be, I don't really drink, my diet is good, I exercise daily and I don't get much in the way of negative stress. The only change recently in my life was taking up helping a friend code their app, again not exactly stressful but it did consume the rest of my free time I had outside of work, seems like even a slow burn out can cause health issues.


Have you checked for H.Pylori?


Yes, all clear, it wasn't an ulcer, just really bad gastritis which the doctor suggested was from stress.


Yeah sure, this can happen. But for most people that's not what burnout means. Mostly it's having a project you want to start but every time you think about it you think "I'll have more time tomorrow, I'll just watch TV now", or "Ugh I can't concentrate on this, I'll take a break". And before you know it 6 months have passed.

That is more common, and that you can recover from


Just curious. How long has it been?


> Just curious. How long has it been?

About four years now.


cocktailpeanuts, one question, how would you describe the feeling of burnout?


You can't. Because it's impossible to describe how hard it was for me in words, you would have to experience it yourself.

When I say "burnout", I don't just mean mental burnout. I've even been in situations where I went completely broke, lived homeless, and much more sensitive details I can't talk about on a public forum.

Of course it doesn't have to be all life threatening to qualify as a "burnout". I've been through more moderate burnouts where I just couldn't keep up mentally. I started doubting humanity (I still haven't fully recovered from this and don't think I ever will).

But overall, these are things you can't just describe. Even if I did, people who've never been through one will never understand.


Thank you for your reply.

I have been close to burnout before, so I have some idea what it's like, I was just curious what it was like for you.

I can't quite figure out something you said earlier...

"But eventually you recover and can't wait to start a new thing."

...when compared to...

"I still haven't fully recovered from this and don't think I ever will"

Do you find some value in lessons you've learned from burnout? That's the only way I can think of to understand both statements together.


I don't really want to recover actually.

What I meant was I got to know more about how the world works, and the world is a messy place the more you know about it. So basically what i meant was the world let me down a little. It is impossible to "unknow" what you already know, so that's what i meant when i can't recover, which is a good thing (although some people may decide to take it negatively)

So in my case there have been no downside and only upsides. I regret 0% of the decisions I made and the "burnouts" have been just part of the experience. Just like how when you date someone and you go through all the fights and perils, and it feels like hell when you're living it, but in a couple of years it's all good memory (not talking about weird cases like an abusive partner)


Have you ever had brake fade in a car? It's like that, but inside your mind. Everything starts feeling mushy and mental processes don't get the results they used to.


Very good. Added that you'd had to have that brake fade in your car while you really, really, wanted the car to stop.




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