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That'll break for people who use "shapes" on the keypad.



Imagine numpad in your mind to play shape on to extract sequence


I can't say if this is a serious answer or not.. But either way it does hold something potentially valuable. Show a numpad and have a "connect the numbers" passphrase, just like you draw the shame now. And you connect X numbers that you choose yourself

Next you can just shuffle the numbers each time, making the pattern random whilst still using the shapes.


I guess s/shame/shape/ is in order, took me a while to parse that. :)


Oh yeah, that makes a lot more sense doesn't it! ^^


That solution is even easier, take away the shapes option.


It's not an option. It's what some people implement themselves when coming up with a PIN. Like "square" (4578) or "Z" (1379) or "triangle" (2792), etc.

That being said, I don't think the loss of shape ability would be that big of a deal. Neither do I think this is something that needs to be defended against.


It is an option. Make them use a randomized keypad when setting the pin, and make them enter it three times.


Sorry, my phrasing was confusing. I meant that the pattern input isn't an "option" that phones provide, the way GP comment interpreted it. ("Take away the shapes option") Rather that it is a way some people use keypads.

I didn't intend to say a randomized keypad isn't an option.


I understood what you meant. What I'm saying is you have the chose of whether you will allow shapes to be an option. An always-random key pad makes it physically impossible to use shapes. That is "taking away the shapes option". It's not just the way some people use keypads. You can stop them from doing it on your keypad.


Ah, ok. Well I totally agree.


can't fix everything in one go.

but a shape plus a fingerprint ought to keep out anyone except cat burglars and security researchers, at least for the moment.




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