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new TLD: .BOT (nic.bot)
123 points by _jomo on Dec 10, 2015 | hide | past | favorite | 70 comments


This is really going to help a lot of sites protect themselves - right now we just have the evil bit, but being able to block addresses with a ptr in .bot should eliminate drive-by defacement altogether.


You had me going, there.



The bit exists in a packet. Its usage does not exist. At least, not commonly used for its "intended purpose".


For definitions of "real" that include April Fools jokes.


Actually there are some systems in the wild that block evil bit traffic https://blog.benjojo.co.uk/post/evil-bit-RFC3514-real-world-...


That's awesome haha


>All domains in the .BOT registry will remain the property of Amazon.

according to http://icannwiki.com/.bot


I still find private companies taking generic TLDs like this (that's probably a bad term, I'm trying to say I have a problem with .bot but not say, .aws) a pretty awful idea. What is the point? Why should Amazon get to buy a chunk of the DNS system like this?


Why not? It's just one extra level, why should it be sacred?



That doesn't actually answer my question, the assumption is still there, unexplained. So we don't get a generic .dev TLD for content targeted at software developers; so what? DNS has existed for thirty years without one, yet we've managed to show content for developers somehow, and we'll continue to do so. The new gTLD program has changed nothing of relevance for us. Does it really matter if Google paid a few hundred grand to get shorter domains?

The whole discussion just reminds me of children in the playground arguing over who gets to play with the red ball.


It would be awesome if Amazon could force registrants to contractually agree to follow Asimov's 3 Laws of Robotics.


For certain definitions of 'awesome'; we'd be inviting murder and deception and all manner of crime via robot. I think the lesson from Asimov is that we can't bank on a simple set of laws to protect us from killer robots.

The zeroth law is most important, as well. If we try this route we'd have to be sure to implement that law first.

> A robot may not harm humanity; or through inaction allow humanity to come to harm.


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The robot killing itself is both a direct action, and results in future inaction, through which humanity may come to harm which the robot could have prevented, had it not killed itself. So that's not a magic-bullet solution.


If it kills itself, it might cause depression in the inventors. So that's definitely not a solution, let alone the only possible one.

A closer solution is to properly simulate humanity and determine which actions work. (There's the ethical question about how good a sim before you've caused consciousness. But I don't think we know enough about consciousness to fully conclude anything there.)


Indeed, in the novels the "inventor" of the 0th law is fatally conflicted upon acting on it.


the problem being definining what "harming humanity" means.


Do botnets qualify as "robots" and does "harming humanity" include DDoS attacks?


That would be good in theory but might not be so good, interesting thoughts on the subject from Computerphile - Why Asimov's Laws of Robotics Don't Work - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PKx3kS7f4A


Wasn't that the entire, combined plot for the book I Robot?

That the three rules don't always work?


It's the combined plot for pretty much every Asimov book they appear in. That's discussed in the linked video, as well as the grand picture of why they don't really make sense as "laws" since they're basically impossible to define without first defining all of ethics.


Obligatory comic https://xkcd.com/1613


    That's fiction, Foster. Some guy made it up!
A cruise missile is a robot.


They certainly could ... I agree they should.


Intrestingly enoungh nic.bot itself is registered not to Amazon proper but to Neustar Inc.


How do I get one? What's the price on the tin?


The only thing it says on the site:

>Information on the .BOT space, registration policies, and launch dates will be forthcoming.

ICANN's wiki[0] is also lacking in information

[0]: http://icannwiki.com/.bot


This!


I figure that as this is an Amazon product it will most likely be available through their domain registration via Route 53.

After wading through the control panel, I finally found the domain registration section. But there is no .bot option as yet.

Judging by the pricing of other boutique TLDs, listed there, it will probably be a rip off. (Yup, all pure conjecture on my part.)


Do you have to sign up for Route 53 to get that section? It appears that I have to pay just to be a member. Or maybe I'm just finding the wrong thing.


I think you need an AWS account. Then login, go to dashboard->route 53. But there is no option for the .bot tld yet.

Perhaps keep an eye on this list: http://docs.aws.amazon.com/Route53/latest/DeveloperGuide/reg...

Looking through that Gandi seem to be a strong associate, they are pre-reserving there.


I got way downvoted for my previous comment. Interesting! lol

That said, I didn't even realize Amazon had a domain registration section. I'm with you that it'll be a total rip off. I'm hoping it's not that absurd because it'd be a really fun one to own!


> I got way downvoted for my previous comment. Interesting!

You were downvoted because it added nothing to the discussion.



Thanks for the list, One of the samples is "sheep nasal bot", I'm going to go for that one!

I also got a laugh, wonder how many readers know who Sebastian Cabot is?


Seems Amazon got that TLD a while back: http://techcrunch.com/2012/06/13/how-tech-giants-are-playing...

Why the long wait?


I, for one, welcome our new larvæ/homosexual/jumping/boat/wineskin/bagpipe/blunt/impolite/bone/offering/bidding/occuring/stick/container/tail/phallic/fine/help/repair/compensation/improvement/toad/strike overlords.

(Okay, 'bot' will probably be used exclusively to mean robot, but it has many other meanings: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bot)


A TLD for all your infected Windows machines \o/


So, who will be the first to offer bulletproof hosting on .bot domains?


Looking forward to medi.bot from Look Around You.


I call dibs on sex.bot


You can have it after me.


That's way better than my first thought (tur.bot)


GitHub better hurry up and get hu.bot


I wonder what's the price of ro.bot going to be.

EDIT: I should have read the rest of the comments before posting this.


Time from registration opening to ro.bot being taken: Mere milliseconds.


I thought the same, but [a-z]{2}.bot are all reserved: http://whois.nic.bot/whoismtld/html/default/reservednames.ht...


They state that those two character domains are reserved, but it looks like they're authorized by ICANN to release these domains (Since 04 August 2015): https://www.icann.org/sites/default/files/tlds/bot/bot-auth-...


Dang, that cuts out a ton of beautiful options.


What about bro.bot? It doesn't seem like there are too many 'fun' words that end in .bot


fem.bot? with apologies to Austin Powers & Steve Austin.



Have you any idea how it feels to be a Fembot living in a Manbot's Manputer's world?


I doubt it will be available. Normally two letters domains are reserved.


Who do they reserve them for? Deep pockets?


Exactly. For example, two-letter .de domains are far more expensive than normal ones – which is how DB and VW got theirs.


db.de (as well as ix.de, hq.de, and bb.de) was registered before the registration of two-letter was forbidden. After a lawsuit they had to give vw.de to Volkswagen which then led to permitting all short domains. Those were given out on a first-come, first-serve basis (i.e. to those with the best resources).


For $ in pockets DO graft.fu


dot.bot would be good.


Until you try telling someone over the phone to visit your website:

w-w-w-dot-dot-dot-bot



Exactly why Slashdot is a great domain ;)


I never realised slashdot didn't use the www subdomain. The name makes a lot more sense now.

http-slash-slash-slashdot-dot-org


From wordsapi:

robot 4.14

abbot 3.1

bot 3

talbot 2.89

cabot 2.84

turbot 2.27

sabot 2.08


What do the numbers indicate? Frequency of use?


Yes, it's a 1 to 8 scale, where 8 is the most frequent.


how do you do a wildcard search on Words API?


Chorus of whinging about DNSSec policies in following document in 3, 2, 1...

http://nic.bot/pdf/BOT-DPSStatement.pdf


yeah that seems odd...




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