i don't think "cold war is over", in a way it is, but the amount of propaganda tik toks blows my mind and the most important thing is - it's so one sided, that i fully support this bill/law or what it is, EU should do something too.
I so much hope this happens. For me and a surprising number of my peers (25+) Facebook is just that thing you sort of have to use. Not as bad as LinkedIn, but that's not saying much.
Most of us prefer to chat via WhatsApp (yes, I know it's also FB, but I hope that'll disappear too) or Telegram. I'd love to see more people move to Telegram.
Most of us preferred to use meetup.com or the like for events, but Facebook just kind of sucked all the air out of that world. Without Facebook there might be a chance for new initiatives to take over.
The one thing FB still seems to do best around here is business listings and everything around that. But I'd also love to see startups take on this area when there isn't a Facebook to dominate.
I'm glad it works for you. I hate it so much I'm telling everyone not to contact me there. It's integrated too deeply with Facebook. I actually succeeded to get people I talk to the most contact me on Signal instead, and they quite like it. (Signal now supports calls from the desktop client)
I wouldn't say it particularly works for me in any specific way. It's just that everybody that was on skype years ago is now on messenger plus some new people. Deep facebook integration is cause of this so I can't be mad at it.
I'd say Telegram is probably the "nicest" app I've used for messaging. WhatsApp and Messenger are Ok. Signal, whilst being idealistically the best, is spartan, kinda ugly, and lacks many features that make messaging "fun".
It doesn’t, you aren’t compelled to use Signal, I care that the clients I’m talking to are conform to the spec and don’t expose myself to side channel attacks (e.g. previewing content directly from the client)
Fortunately, I'm not. But due to the nature of messengers, I likely would if Signal became popular.
If you don't want others to use a client of their choice for some (real or imagined) security benefits, that's between you and them. I think most people will think your priorities are silly.
Telegram has been picking up steam in my wide network. It's been surprising to me how easy it was, as an early adopter, to convince people to use it. It doesn't work with everyone; WhatsApp dominates around here. But in the tens of people that I care to communicate with have happily switched to Telegram for much of their chatting.
Maybe I understood that wrong. I couldn't get past the paywall so there's that too.
Can't Facebook keep EU data in the EU and "deploy" ADs to the various regions?
I'm not sure I understand why the data has to go the the US. The only thing I can image is that AI models are better with larger data sets. But even then it's not too awful to have an EU ML model and another for the rest of the world. Is it enough to exit the whole EU market?
The EU laws contribute to the Balkanization of the Internet. It seems most people on HN are happy to have governments tell people what data is allowed to be transmitted and where it has to be hosted, as long as Facebook or TikTok is at the receiving end.
most people in Europe. I think in this instance the EU is generally thought to be doing the right thing. The only people I hear moaning is the odd sour-puss on the internet.
Facebook like any business has to obey the law to operate in the EU.
Considering the mass surveilance issues of foreign governments(i.e US, China) I believe the law is sensible if not too weak. Even people who do not use Facebook can be/ are affected.
Yeah, letting people buy from businesses they choose sounds good.
Standard oil was a great company, that benefited consumers by driving down costs and improving the efficiency of oil production and distribution. Prices fell from ~30 cents to ~5 cents per gallon between 1870-1900, and when they were broken up by the government they had more than 100 competitors, and only ~65% market share.
I followed that link and was faced with a sign-up page and some fairly generic blurb. It might be the BEST SOCIAL NETWORK EVER but to get my attention I need to see what it does and what people are doing with it. The thing that facebook does, and that it needs to to better is integrate with the wider internet. What we need is geocities with apps and messaging.
I'm not giving out. I'm just saying what I think needs to be done to get my interest. Maybe that's not important. Maybe as you say they're not into getting my attention just yet, and that's fine too.
EDIT I suppose in the context of this discussion it is important to remember that for the first while, Facebook too was invite-only, it didn't do them any harm, but on the other hand is Orkut still around?
I don't have this problem, but a lot of times my right airpod pro does not connect, so i have to put it back to the case, wait a few seconds ant try again.
In my opinion Vita-Cola, Polo-Cockta, Kofola faded not because of coca cola, but because they were controlled by soviet mentality people from "higher status", party people and so on, who didn't care about anything but themselves, a lot of companies disappeared after soviet union collapsed (thank god it did collapse) because of crime, corruption and complete incompetence.
Vita-Cola is again alive and kicking, and I am one who actually loves it. I am sure this is not just nostalgia, because, even though I was born in the GDR, I was 9 when the wall fell and maybe had 3 glasses of Vita Cola before.
"crime, corruption and complete incompetence" are often cited as the reasons for why local brands disappeared, along with "nostalgia" for their revival. I personally believe people just wanted to have the stuff they could not get before - or "curiosity" to put it in one word. Once that was over, people went by taste again and yes, there are actually customers who just like a higher acidity, less sugar or simply a different taste.
I think curiosity doesn't really cover it. Being a kid in the 90's, home-grown soda sucked. In Romania, we had knock-offs such a Adria Cola witch were, quite honestly, horrible.
I don't want to give up my privacy just because some bad actors are using (or will use) OTHER end to end encrypted messaging apps. Bans won't solve the problem of child abuse and etc., when i'll want to live in a dictatorship i'll move to china or some similar place.
