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They don't have to match the market leader, they just have to be "good enough".

There are oodles of use-cases where sending your data to an outside provider is a complete no-go. In these cases OpenAI/Google/whoever-products aren't relevant competition.


Part of the problem is that "good enough" can be really difficult to figure out, whereas GPT-3.5 (and of course GPT-4) are almost a guaranteed success with just basic prompting and context fed in via the prompt.

And yes, there are indeed use cases where sending data to an outside provider is a no-go. The bet OpenAI is making is that they can solve for that later while building their business on use cases where it's fine to send data to an outside parameter. It may also simply not be something they care about. In my own work I know of a massive financial enterprise that has prioritized ~30 or so features where it's fine to send that data. OpenAI is not struggling to get their money.

It remains to be seen if OpenAI will also capture this market, or if fine-tuning open models to be "good enough" wins out over time. The point isn't that, though. The point is that their models are so broadly applicable that _anyone_ can get some value quickly without much work.


I keep hearing this, but which company has this policy? The privacy policy of openAI's enterprise(or Azure's) is not a lot different than say AWS, which everyone uses.


"everyone"? What are you talking about?

Have you ever worked in any sector that has security policies?

Even if you haven't, perhaps spend 2 minutes using a search engine?

Here is a first page result for you: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/samsung-fab-workers-leak-c...


Military, banking, health care all store their data on third party servers. It's the standard thing basically everywhere to do so.

Your own link shows Samsung using ChatGPT. Not sure what point you're trying to make with it.


Yes, they used it. Did you read any further?

"These actions clearly put confidential information at risk, prompting Samsung to warn its employees about the dangers of using ChatGPT. Samsung Electronics informed its executives and employees that data entered into ChatGPT is transmitted and stored on external servers, making it impossible for the company to retrieve it and increasing risks of confidential information leakage."


> Even if you haven't, perhaps spend 2 minutes using a search engine?

Obnoxious comment considering your link shows the opposite of what you're claiming.


Obnoxious? Yes.

Opposite of what I claim? No.

"Samsung Electronics informed its executives and employees that data entered into ChatGPT is transmitted and stored on external servers, making it impossible for the company to retrieve it and increasing risks of confidential information leakage."


No. They are not like us. Fundamentally not like us.

If you ask them to reason, then their text-prediction works differently, because it now predicts text containing reasons. They do not actually reason.

I know it is hard to believe, because the results are (usually) so impressive, but this is nothing but text-prediction.


I just love the "plus the two missing legs". Made me actually lol.


Perhaps I am old-fashioned, but "proved" is a strong word for a two-day experiment of a single waitress with no control of outside variables.


Well yeah, they were an entertainment show, not a research institute but I doubt you'll find anyone refuting their find though.

It's a known fact better looking people get treated better by their fellow clothed apes in all walks of life, including and especially, service industry work.


I am not objecting to the finding or the show, I am objecting to the casual use of "prove" where something has merely been plausibly suggested.


Correct. Things can be disproved by a counterexample, but not proved.

A theory that "tips are always determined only by service quality" is indeed disproved by Myth Busters. But that's not what he said.


Tipping is great, if it is optional.

I feel in many parts of the US it is now expected, if not demanded.

This is bullshit. If your business model doesn't work without tips, you need to raise the base prices. And in pubs and bars and such you need to pay your staff a proper wage.

Tipping is great, if it is optional.


Tipping is basically a soft form of bribery, which isn't great at all. When it becomes mandatory, it's even worse.


The sub-headline says everything you need to know: "Gadget makers, unsurprisingly, are hesitant to compete purely on device quality."


Lutron Electronics is a good counter example


And you would have misunderstood...

> If Matter can succeed in convincing companies to compete on the merits of their devices—not the incidental revenue that comes from being a single-system device provider, or phone app marketing...


...then in a few years, people won't even notice that they're simply scanning a code on their devices and adding them to whatever home control system they wish.

The sentence you (partially) quote starts with "if" and ends with "wish". Cough.


Quoting the second part of the sentence reinforces my original point. Not sure why you suggest otherwise.


What is your point?

You didn't make a point yet.

You claimed I misunderstood, then quoted a sentence that starts with "if".


I have heard bad things about the keyboard, compared to legacy Thinkpads. How is your experience?


One of the early customers was the European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts, so, wild guess, they probably used it for medium-range weather forecasts.


> they probably used it for medium-range weather forecasts

in europe


FWiW Australia used a CDC Cyber 205 for occassional weather modelling and other mathematical work in the early 1980s.

( There was a seperate dedicated weather computer, this one was used for 'other' jobs like speculative weather modelling, monster group algebraic fun, et al.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDC_Cyber

The UK was the first customer:

    In 1980, the successor to the Cyber 203, the Cyber 205 was announced. The UK Meteorological Office at Bracknell, England was the first customer and they received their Cyber 205 in 1981.


I thought the ECMWF models were (and always have been) global?


Only centred on Europe.


Fwiw I meant "made in Europe" (as opposed as models of Europe)


> European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts


Numerically, I’m currently what this would have looked like. I’m talking about the governing equation set, discretization methods, data, etc. It would be a fun project to try and implement a toy model like that.


> It would be a fun project to try and implement a toy model like that.

If you really want a challenge, do it using pen, paper and a slide rule, like in the old days[1]. Just make sure to apply appropriate smoothing of the input data first[2].

[1]: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/how-world-war-i-chang...

[2]: https://arxiv.org/abs/2210.01674


Elena Buckley can write; this was a well written text. But I didn't find anything much interesting in the writing. Sad.

I think this will be the only bit I remember:

[Fifteen-year-old] Landon thought for a second and nodded. “I do think the Sphere is cool,” he said, looking me in the eye. “But it means more light pollution. I’m trying to see the stars.”


The light pollution from Vegas is wild. My buddy and I were heading towards Las Vegas from Boise on 15 about 20 years ago and, at around 2:00 am, I thought I was hallucinating because it appeared that the sun was rising. It took us a few seconds to realize it was the lights of Vegas… because we were still nearly 70 miles away.


the "significant societal changes" are immigration.

as you can't change the birth rate overnight, and even if you could, it would take ~20years for the kids to begin earning, there needs to be a short-term solution. and that is immigration.

good thing immigration is so popular in rich western societies at the moment.


The problem is when the country can- or does not have any influence of what kind of immigrants they get. Not every country can get the best. In the case of Denmark for example, the immigration has been shown a net negative[0]. And you have to admit it is weird to live in a society with a self destructing culture, where foreigners are used as breading rabbits.

[0] https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00148-017-0636-1


If they aren't qualified, then you have to train them. If they don't have your values, you have to integrate them. That is complicated, takes a lot of effort and costs a lot of money. Everyone who thinks anything about the problem is cheap or easy is delusional.

What is the alternative? Just let the population age?


What is the alternative? Just let the population age?

I would say change the culture to become self sustaining again. The best time to start was yesterday and the second best time is today.


> there needs to be a short-term solution

What is the long-term one then? Keep importing people and hope for the best?


a higher birth rate (aka make having children more attractive) is the only long term solution.

well, it normally would be, in our situation the climate likely will interfere with any long term plans.


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