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And that doesn't change a thing.


I tried generating everything on the homepage using ChatGPT (content for all posts and titles) and Dall-E (for all images). People making content for a living should definitely be worried!


Well, that might not be a very silly thing to say.


I figured it was obvious, given 1.5B people use GMail so it's probably the largest receiver of email in the world. So even if "email is open" if there's a closed system on the receiving end of your message it doesn't do you much good.

Maybe it's not obvious though, and we're just talking theoretical techno-utopias.


I think this is a false dichotomy. Gmail is popular, does not undermine the “openness of email”. Both statements are true, and people can and do run their own mail servers, or choose other more trusted providers. It’s a good analogy to crypto actually.

Google scanning all your emails does not undermine the promise of email, just as coinbase forcing addresses doesn’t undermine the promise of crypto.


Gmail absolutely undermines the openness of email. That's fine, it's a choice users made because they don't want to run their own email servers, so they offload it to Google. Google decides what to classify as spam. As such, if I stand up a new email server and start sending email to Gmail addresses, I am at the whims of Google deciding what email from me gets delivered.

The protocol is open and designed to be decentralized, but the system as implemented in the real world is fairly centralized at this point. Saying "you can run your own mail server" doesn't matter if virtually nobody actually does.

If the end state of crypto will just be a bunch of web2 style companies running centralized servers that (maybe) interact with blockchains, and we say "that doesn't undermine the promise of crypto, you can run your own node", I guess I'll have to agree to disagree.


"As such, if I stand up a new email server and start sending email to Gmail addresses, I am at the whims of Google deciding what email from me gets delivered."

This is the critical point. Adoption matters, and always ends up with consolidated power. It's just how things are, and how they stay, short of the severe intervention of dramatically easy-to-use tools for "click to host your own stuff".


Yes. I think this is an important distinction, freedom to do something is still important even if the majority don’t do it.

It allows us to trust gmail/coinbase more knowing we can move away from it if required. Because they know that too


Cannot think of a similar story - that one was very unique.


Story recommendations based on click history would be cool


That would mean its login-only?


I made a jobboard for this - its free for everyone, http://jittoc.com


Seeded with most jobs from this thread - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22665398


Seeded with some jobs from this thread - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22665398


Try http://talll.com for tech and http://filll.com for finance. Solid collection of rss feeds.


Really good share -- thank you!

Are there similar sites for other areas of interest, say history or science?


There is an enterprise software company named powwow as well. You might run into issues with your name.


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