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Don't you suppose that it's "fair" to request compensation for the room and board if the person is making a "fair" wage?


No. Prisons should cost society money. If you are taking away someone’s freedoms, there should be a high cost so you don’t do it flippantly when another solution will work.


Are you concerned that if you make prison too expensive society might resort to capital punishment to reduce prison costs? Or we end up releasing prisoners who are legitimate dangers to society.

And to be clear, I'm opposed to capital punishment and dangerous conditions in prisons. I'm just pointing out that I don't think your argument is very good. If you think we as a society are willing to flippantly put people in prison because it's cheap I don't see how you can trust us to no resort to other flippant measures if the cost was high.


Wow.

No, they forfeited their freedoms and we're put away by due process, but if that's your point of view then we've nothing further to discuss. Incredible stuff on HN these days.


Incredible for sure. To start with, it sounds like you think due process means that any kind or amount of punishment must be correct and reasonable, which. wow.


For starters this is just a complete non-comment. I mean there's no substance here.

And secondly, he has a good point. We don't want to make locking people up easy or cheap. It should be high-friction, it should take a long time, and it should cost the government lots and lots of money.

Why? Incentives. The government has no reason to prevent crime if locking people up is cheap. It's made even worse by the promise of cheap or free labor. Then, you run into issues where the government actually wants people to fail and do crime, so they can extract labor from them. We see this quite aggressively in some southern states like Georgia. A remnant of Jim Crow era America.

But, if prison is expensive, the government will be incentivized to put some of that money into crime prevention programs. Things like homeless shelters, food banks, job programs.


Forced room and board?


To be honest, if he didn't pay a cut of his earnings while living off government allocated funds, wouldn't that put him in a better position than those who haven't been found guilty and sentenced for breaking the laws of the land in which they reside? I can't see a much resistance to the argument that they one really ought to pay the full cost back to the state, as with community service... no?


No, for the simple fact that he'd still be stuck in an American prison where people are brutalized, sexually assaulted, denied access to medical care, abused by guards, etc. regularly. He deserves everything he is able to earn under those conditions, and truthfully it's a miracle he can work at all.

Americans have become too comfortable with their everyday sadism.


And also medical care. Literally socialism.


No, because they don't want to be there.


> This is part of the plan to gut and privatize NOAA because the billionaire behind AccuWeather says so.

Source?


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joel_Myers

>Myers faced criticism in 2005 when he supported the National Weather Service Duties Act of 2005, a bill introduced by U.S. Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA) that some argued would have prohibited the National Weather Service from publishing weather data to the public when private-sector entities, such as AccuWeather, perform the same function commercially.[34]


'Project 2025 would not outright end the National Weather Service. It says the agency “should focus on its data-gathering services,” and “should fully commercialize its forecasting operations.”

It said that “commercialization of weather technologies should be prioritized to ensure that taxpayer dollars are invested in the most cost-efficient technologies for high quality research and weather data.” Investing in commercial partners will increase competition, Project 2025 said.'

Source: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-checking-what-pro...


Trump tried to nominate the CEO of accuweather to run NOAA his first term, but was blocked. That CEO has lobbied to get Congress to limit the services NOAA provides so it doesn’t “compete” with companies like accuweather.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/14/politics/noaa-nominee-accuwea...

Project 2025 calls for moves similar to that.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-checking-what-pro...

Key quotes:

> The document describes NOAA as a primary component “of the climate change alarm industry” and said it “should be broken up and downsized.”

> Project 2025 would not outright end the National Weather Service. It says the agency “should focus on its data-gathering services,” and “should fully commercialize its forecasting operations.”

> It said that “commercialization of weather technologies should be prioritized to ensure that taxpayer dollars are invested in the most cost-efficient technologies for high quality research and weather data.” Investing in commercial partners will increase competition, Project 2025 said.

Should be enough from here for you to find your way with Google to further details, including the primary sources on the P2025 stuff.


> The National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) should be dismantled and many of its functions eliminated, sent to other agencies, privatized, or placed under the control of states and territories.

https://web.archive.org/web/20241129041037/https://static.pr...

Also worth noting AccuWeather CEO was nominated to lead NOAA in 2017 by Trump but withdrew after waiting more than 2 years for Senate confirmation.


... This isn't even difficult to find, and it was a major issue during the first Trump administration.

For one example: https://www.citizensforethics.org/legal-action/letters/noaa-...


It’s an opinion - he/she is the source


It's quite literally a stated goal of several people involved in the current administration.

So, not an opinion. The sources are the dozens of times they've said they want to shutter NOAA.


It's explicitly stated as an intentional plan, out in the open, loudly, documented, widely reported, going back many years in many outlets, both domestically and internationally.

If your head is so far up the right wing bullshit machine that you can't bother to find out this extremely widely documented fact then this comment isn't going to help you.

Keep drinking that koolaid brother


> The root cause here is obviously testosterone levels.

This is a patently absurd observation and you didn't even bother to offer an anecdote, as if that would make a difference anyways.


My reply to you is same as the other guy.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43327023

But I'll add another side-anecdote: High-T men are more sexually driven, making them care more about appearance of women. What is that appearance? Wide hips and large other things too. All of which are a signal of more vital and healthy child bearing. So not only do they want more sex, they choose women which are more fertile to begin with. Not exactly rocket science, to make the logical connection there, and predict the outcome.



The existence of an exception to a general rule doesn't disprove the rule. Most every "general rule" has notable exceptions that you can find if you look.

But until you demonstrate that girls outnumber boys in terms of violent tendencies, you'll have to accept my rule as true and your exception as...an exception.


Fine, I’ll try again:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homicide_statistics_by_gende...

”… found that men account for an average of 95% of all persons convicted of homicide, and almost 8 out of 10 of the victims”


If you look back at this discussion you'll notice we were in agreement the whole time (you and me anyway). lol. It's men with the Testosterone, and it's the Testosterone that causes aggressive behaviors as well.


Ah. I don't know why men take that so offensively. It's like, okay, men have a testosterone issue, keep an eye on it (we are all a work in progress).


The only people who are offended by these biological facts about Testosterone are the progressive far-left woke types. You know, the ones who invented the term "Toxic Masculinity" which was at one time taken seriously, but is now considered quite comical.

Sure an overabundance of that molecule leads to "issues" (roid rage, etc), but a normal amount of it is why we crossed the oceans to find a new land, fought to defend ourselves in wars, landed on the moon, and every other thing that people with little drive would never have done. So I don't consider "maleness" a flaw, and anyone who does has a mental disorder.


> If you mean being the primary implementer of features, then probably not.

It's my belief that any engineering manager worth their salt should push back on this and argue for a seat at this table, every single time. I don't want to work for someone who is disinterested in new functionality in codebases under their purview.


I want my manager to manage. I need them to play the politics to get what I need as far as resources, to set business priorities and to make sure I’m aligned with those priorities.

I need them to then trust me to accomplish the objectives myself on smaller implementations or to lead the team on larger implementations.


I can't tell if you're agreeing or not?

I'm not asserting anything about if a manager should code, but rather calling out a statement in the article. A good engineering manager should never be surprised by some new functionality.


This is a meme comment by now.

I've been using an iPad Air (with Paperlike) for the past 4 years for basically running my life at school, and I can't imagine going back to working with actual paper for daily note-taking and homework assignments. It's great for reading whitepapers and marking them up while laying on the couch.

That functionality by itself justifies its existence in my estimation.


Sounds like you have a great use case. I can see how it would have been useful for me as well back when I was at university. Unfortunately, I rarely do any writing on paper any more, although I probably should.


For the same reason I bought the cheapest 10" Android tablet with external memory slot. I don't know what it's like now, but in the past Apple tried very hard to offer entry level models cheap, but for anything usable in terms of storage you had to pay a big premium.


The base is now 64gb which should be plenty for any student. If not, iCloud is very affordable.


The mark of a good engineer is knowing when this sort of handwaving is actually meaningful and helpful. Formality for its own sake is anti-pattern, but who am I telling?


Surely there is some critical threshold that indicates that we can reject the hypothesis that fascism isn't happening?


No. Because If you say it's happening you violate #4.


Mind clarifying precisely what you mean by this?


They mean taking up arms against the government.


> Credit Suisse here in Switzerland used to only hire PhDs for programming positions. It didn’t matter what the PhD was in - they’d train you how to program.

> Note: credit Suisse collapsed a few years ago and now no longer exists.

So you're saying that was a sound strategy on their part


Correlation does not imply causation (but it does stare at it from across the room and suggestively waggle its eyebrows)


> I teach the systems class at Montana State, where we go from transistors up to a real computing system, and I have students that don't understand what a file system really is when they start my class

Admittedly I am old grouch, but I stopped having any expectations of the current generation of "college kids".

Incidentally, I'm at Montana State getting a master's in IE, and I deal daily with this one PhD student who has demonstrated an inability to perform a simple partial derivative, which you'd think is a pretty useful skill given the subject matter. Hell, last semester in a 400-level math course, one of the students didn't understand how to add two matrices, I kid you not. It is odd that a senior in CS wouldn't know what a file system is, but that seems rather quaint compared to some of the wild bullshit I've encountered here.

My first stint in university in the 2000s felt a lot different than this, and it's a bit depressing. But man, I feel just great about my prospects in the job market next spring.


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