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Its mostly because of protecting the crew's privacy. The unions will reject and fight against an increase to the recording time.


Well, to give you an example, here in Argentina, almost everyone in my phone's contact list uses WhatsApp. Here, the fact that you pay per message is a big incentive. But there are other advantages, like instant delivery, being sure that the message was received (double-check), better feedback ('X is online' when using the app, 'Last seen at 09:22', X is writing...), media sharing, groups, etc. simple things that help a lot. Also, it works both on iPhone and Android...


neves 59 days ago | link

In Brazil, sometimes a SMS message takes hours to arrive. My bank sometimes send a validation code by SMS, but I can't use it because it expires before arriving.


You seem to be right. Here's an article [1] with details about the transaction.

The main points of the deal are:

- Microsoft pays € 5.44 Billions for all of its Devices & Services business, including the Mobile Phones and Smart Devices business units as well as an industry-leading design team, operations including all Nokia Devices & Services production facilities, Devices & Services-related sales and marketing activities, and related support functions.

- Nokia will grant Microsoft a 10 year non-exclusive license to its patents as of the time of the closing (with option to extend to perpetuity), and Microsoft will grant Nokia reciprocal rights related to HERE services.

- Microsoft will become a strategic licensee of the HERE platform, and will separately pay Nokia for a four year license.

- Microsoft has agreed to make immediately available to Nokia EUR 1.5 billion of financing in the form of three EUR 500 million tranches of convertible bonds to be issued by Nokia maturing in 5, 6 and 7 years respectively. It is at Nokia’s discretion if it chooses to draw down all or some of these tranches.

- To avoid the perception of any potential conflict of interest between now and the pending closure of the transaction, Stephen Elop will step aside as President and CEO of Nokia Corporation, resign from the Board of Directors, and will become Executive Vice President, Devices & Services

[1] http://www.efinancehub.com/nokia-corporation-adr-nysenok-doi...


marcamillion 229 days ago | link

This particular deal point is interesting to me:

Microsoft will also immediately make available to Nokia EUR 1.5 billion of financing in the form of three EUR 500 million tranches of convertible notes that Microsoft would fund from overseas resources. If Nokia decides to draw down on this financing option, Nokia would pay back these notes to Microsoft from the proceeds of the deal upon closing. The financing is not conditional on the transaction closing.

Sounds like Nokia may be running into a cash crunch? They specify that the financing is not dependent on the transaction closing - so it seems as if Nokia needs the money either way, and if the transaction closes they will repay MSFT.


RyJones 229 days ago | link

Cheaper to buy them with money stuck overseas than repatriate and pay taxes on it.


marcamillion 229 days ago | link

True....very good point.



Not likely. Most probably, it will end up being something like the White Elephant, a squattered building at the edge of Buenos Aires [1][2]. It was going to be the largest hospital in Latin America, but then after the 1955 coup, the construction stopped, the building was abandoned and it was squattered. It has become a very dangerous place, and even the police and gendarmery (an intermediate between police and military) are afraid to enter there. I have worked for a security company that had to place security cameras there, and the workers had to be protected by gendarmery officials. While they were installing the cameras, some bullets where shot from windows. Luckily, nobody was injured.

[1] http://www.oddee.com/contrib_17194.aspx

[2] http://www.argentinaindependent.com/socialissues/urbanlife/r...

PS: Relevant to the second link, the project "Sueños Compartidos" or "shared dreams" was closed soon after the article was written, because of a high profile corruption scandal involving the project.


The picture in the article fits perfectly, not only because of Neo stopping time, but because, more importantly, at least to me, this looks like if the Universe has its own Garbage Collector. Which could mean that we are living a simulated reality [1], something like the Matrix!

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simulated_reality


k__ 261 days ago | link

I think so, too.

We have gaps in reality, the planck length, planck time etc.

Also, we have Gödel's incompleteness theorems, which tells us about the gaps in theories we can't fill.


monjaro 261 days ago | link

You are assuming more about the Planck units than is currently known. Directly from wikipedia:

"There is currently no directly proven physical significance of the Planck length; it is, however, a topic of research."


atondwal 261 days ago | link

> Gödel's incompleteness theorems, which tells us about the gaps in theories we can't fill

That's mathematical, not physical, so that would mean that in the parent universe somehow _something else constitutes a formal language_, which requires changing what it means to be a subset, which requires changing set theory. So if GITs are invalid in the parent universe, it means, roughly either that you can compare something to itself, and find that it contains different things that itself (absurd), or that list comprehensions are logically impossible (not as obviously absurd, but still "whaaa?").


krichman 261 days ago | link

Planck length and time are curious; but incompleteness is a mathematical construct, so it's true for all universes, simulated or not.


I think that's not a valid analogy. First, the last time I checked, Apple is still a niche player in the global computer market. Their current success is not because of their position in the computer market, but because of their current position in the MP3-Player (iPod) and smartphone markets.

And second, because Nokia is not betting on their own OS (as Apple did), but in someone else's OS. That means a different kind of pressure from their investors, and a real submission to another company. And they put all their eggs in the same basket. They did that in order to have something really different to offer (they were afraid to compete without a real differentiating element, and not just a different launcher). But that strategy is not working and Microsoft is trying really hard to get other brands to use their OS.

So, if MS is not putting all their eggs in the same basket, why should Nokia do it anyway? Just staying on the same road, knowing that there's a cliff ahead, in hopes that something will happen... may not be the best strategy. Even if they really believe that Windows Phone is the future, they could use another line of smartphones, with a different OS (even using stock Android could be considered a differentiating element...) just to get some cash that gives them some air (especially from their investors).


ishansharma 304 days ago | link

    I think that's not a valid analogy. First, the last time I   checked, Apple is still a niche player in the global computer market. Their current success is not because of their position in the computer market, but because of their current position in the MP3-Player (iPod) and smartphone markets.
But this niche market saved Apple from bankruptcy. Had they not gotten NextStep, they would have been bankrupt.


bergie 304 days ago | link

The Microsoft investment and their promise to port/maintain Office for Mac OS were what bought Apple enough time to come up with new product categories like the iPod.


seanmcdirmid 304 days ago | link

They also suck up a lot of the "profits" in the PC market. So even if their marketshare is 5%, their profit share is like 30%.


Replace Brazil with Argentina, and everything you two have said would still be correct. As a country, we are much more alike than we like to acknowledge.


molmalo 308 days ago | link | parent | on: COINTELPRO

who were US citizens

It doesn't matter if they were us citizens or not. Take for example the Tuskegee syphilis experiment [1]. I don't know if you wrote that in order to make those experiments look even worse, but it shouldn't matter the nationality of those people. The fact that they were experimenting with them without their consent, it's just terrible... And they were doing it for 40 years! It looks like something taken from Josef Mengele's research book (and I can't think of a better case than this to appeal to Godwin's law[2]).

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_syphilis_experiment

[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law


jholman 308 days ago | link

> "It doesn't matter if they were us citizens or not."

Yyyyes and no. It depends on what you're discussing, and in what context. Medical experiments like Tuskegee and MK Ultra, I agree with you entirely.

Wiretapping, it's a little different. I mean, non-Americans who're being spied on the by US government should be offended, maybe, but not quite the same level of outrage.

It seems reasonable to demand that your own country follow its own law. If/when they break that law, there's an extra type of outrage that's appropriate. And American elected representatives purport to be agents of the citizens of the US (and they do not purport to be agents of humanity at large.. well, not as literally, anyway). If/when they act against the interests of the US citizenry, there's an extra type of outrage that's appropriate.

Further, the harm that the NSA can do to a random citizen of, say, Germany, by spying on them, is modest. The harm that can be done to Americans, by being spied upon by hypothetical corrupt agents of their own government, is much steeper, I think.


josephlord 308 days ago | link

So you would only be offended but not outraged if the Chinese, Russian or the British government spying on you?

The only thing that makes it worse that the NSA is spying on Americans is it seems completely contrary to any ordinary reading of the US law (and some reasonable readings of the constitution) and the NSA's remit. If the law (and constitution) was properly amended to allow it it would be less bad than spying on foreigners.


jholman 308 days ago | link

That's right. As a Canadian living in the US, and highly vulnerable to the US government, I am much less outraged by the US spying on me than I would be if I heard about similar offenses from my own government. And I'd be still less concerned if I'd stayed at home in Canada.

> "If the law (and constitution) was properly amended to allow it it would be less bad than spying on foreigners."

I disagree.


josephlord 307 days ago | link

I probably should have said it is less bad than being spied on by foreigners. At least if you have a democratic country you can campaign and vote for candidates promising to stop the mass intrusion or even stand on that platform. I don't like the monitoring but at least in a democracy there is something that can be done about it (not that it is easy to persuade a sufficient number of people to join a cause but it can be done).

I would expect governments to try to protect their citizens from foreign spying[1] (and to try to spy on foreigners). I would expect them to regard other countries efforts as illegal and prosecute (or revoke diplomatic status and send home where applicable) those trying to spy on their citizens.

Internally there are several different issues with the recent NSA:

1) The high level of intrusion offensive and dangerous at the apparent levels that it is currently occurring.

2) The democratic process seems to have been poorly followed, NSA is far exceeding its stated brief (foreign inteligence).

3) Constitutionally the situation seems at best dubious.

Issue (1) applies internally and externally. The others are US internal issues.

[1] See Echelon etc. and other actions as cases where this expectation is wrong.


cma 308 days ago | link

You don't think it is also worse because the US has legal jurisdiction over you, while China, Russia, and Great Britain don't?


josephlord 308 days ago | link

Well I'm British living in Britain but the extradition laws are such I don't feel safe from US legal processes. Plus there are numerous reasons to tempt me into the US's jurisdiction (for business, conferences or pleasure) so while I don't visit often I wouldn't want to restrict myself from visiting.

There are also non-legal actions that can be taken from insider trading on call patterns of company execs planning mergers to blackmail or straight industrial espionage.


mindcrime 308 days ago | link

You're right, the citizenship thing doesn't really matter. I think, however, that it's a little bit more galling for them to target American citizens, coming from the perspective of an American citizen at least, as protecting our rights is nominally the very reason we have a government at all. And for the very same government we created to protect us, to turn around and attack the very people who created it, just adds salt to the wound.

That said, experimenting on people without their knowledge or permission is wrong, evil, and abhorrent regardless of their nationality (or any other attribute!).


Exactly, they left those countries out too. We'll have to wait until Google tells us why, if they ever do it.


spikels 330 days ago | link

You will wait in vain. Google has no incentive to explain. It would only damage any chance of other and/or future business in Argentina.

But not every company is so timid. Brazil's Vale recently pulled out if a giant potash project and according to Reuters: Vale said the inflation and exchange rate could make the project unviable.[1]



Please, stop jumping to conclusions. This doesn't seem to be because of the Argentine government, as Chile has also been removed from Google Play.

(Spanish) http://faqsandroid.com/google-retira-a-chile-y-mas-paises-de...

(English) http://translate.google.com.ar/translate?sl=es&tl=en&...

So, now it seems that is Google who has to explain the reasons of this move. If I had to guess, I would say that those countries didn't represent a big market for them to support. But we won't know the reason behind this until Google reports one.


molmalo 329 days ago | link

UPDATE: https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answ...

>"Due to ongoing challenges making payments to Argentine developers, we will no longer be able to pay Google Play developers based in Argentina."


>"We realize this change will be painful, and will continue exploring ways to resume funding Argentine developers."

While they don't specify which challenges they are facing, I read somewhere that the problem seems to be that banks in Argentina charge international transfers with a fee of around 1/1000 of the money being transferred, with a minimum fee of around (usd) $75, making the payments too expensive for Google on small accounts.


seppo0010 330 days ago | link

I don't know much about it, but Argentina was in the list 3 weeks ago, while Chile wasn't.




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