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Isn't that the issue though? Nobody cares until it's too late.


What ChatGPT can do combine knowledge and provide personalised examples. This is usually done manually and it takes hours of research with trial & error.


Tough choice.

Weird goo that was grown in a lab by people that have no idea what they're doing OR natural food we've been eating since the dawn of time.


I’m vegetarian (several years now) and I agree with you. Meat has its problems, but our bodies make very good use of it.

Long list of chemicals with unproven value? We have a bad track record with trying to engineer our own ‘healthy’ food. See: margarine for example.

Impossible/beyond is great as a vegetarian as a rare treat (different flavors than normal veggies, loaded with umami — I don’t love them or anything but there are some recipes they work well with). I might have it once every couple months or so, often when a thoughtful friend invites me to their bbq and brings some impossible patties so I’m not left out...

But to actually use it as a meat replacement, like for several meals per week? It feels like we’re going to look back on that in 30 years like we do now for margarine.

PS: there are a million delicious vegetarian dishes that don’t need any fake meat, you kind of stop wanting the impossible/beyond stuff after you’re vegetarian for a little while


> See: margarine for example

What's wrong with it for reducing cholesterol intake? Butter has gotten very expensive, too.


A long time ago Margarine contained lots trans fat. Nowadays it's fine, but I think that's what OP meant.


it had tons of trans fat when it came out, also cholesterol intake isn't important. Dietary cholesterol == bad is just a myth


> natural food we've been eating since the dawn of time.

I don't know if you seen the factory farms that produce chicken and beef? There is nothing natural from the dawn of time from that. They are loaded with antibiotics, and they are naturally selected for maximum meat production. Deli meats and hotdogs sure are natural products made of some amalgamation of random animal parts.

Some people speak as if everyone procures their meat from Eden's organic farm in New Zealand where the animals are hugged to death. It really is not the case for most people.


Beef is not factory-farmed. All cows are raised grazing on grass and are taken to feedlots for fattening only just prior to slaughter. Cows don't go through the torture that chickens and pigs go through.


> Beef is not factory-farmed.

That seems to go against common knowledge.

Cows spend about a few months to a year on a feed lot which is most likely a concentrated feed lot (CAFO is a factory farm). Veal seems to be especially cruel. Dairy cows seem to have it pretty bad for around five years from start to finish.


I know -- common knowledge on this subject is atrocious. Also, being fed on a lot is not the same as being "factory farmed". It sounds like you just equate "raising cattle" with "factory farming".


> All cows

Entirely untrue.


What makes you think they have no idea what they're doing? There's a lot more weird goo we eat all the time, after all.


The idea that the American beef industry produces anything like the meat primeval hunter gatherers subsisted on is hilarious!


It's the margarine of meat.


No worries, all this is coming in a few years as well.


> US controls the land and seas of most of the Earth

They do so with the help of allies which they seem to forget.


And by "help" you mean harass civilians and get away with it, and bomb the middle east.


Help of allies? Lol.


Except that they produce rubbish.


I don't know. I really enjoy 10 popups when i visit a website.


How else will some random news site you're visiting for the first time know whether or not you want to subscribe to their newsletter, allow them to send you notifications, and know your current precise location?


Without the pop-up he'll miss an amazing opportunity to invest to get a 3,641,613% [1] gain!!!

[1] bottom of page 2: https://berkshirehathaway.com/letters/2021ltr.pdf


I think I could use a huge call to action to instal an app to read the page I'm already on.


Would you like to signup for more popups?

"Yes" or "Not right now"?

You selected "Not right now" the last 187 thousand times in a row, but maybe today you've changed your mind.


Maybe a newsletter about popups is what you're missing.


Plus the emphatic message that my privacy is of their utmost concern, is reassuring. I feel special.


Happily using Zoho for 2-3 years now. Moved away from Google because... well you can't trust them with anything.


What about elections? We can trust Google with those, right?


Haha, and you can trust the Indian government? No offense, but India any cop can walk into Zoho's offices and ask for whatever they want. It doesn't have to go through any agency. Given the corruption of that country, you're absolutely dreaming if you think your data is safer.


I'm not worried about the US or Indian government.

I am worried about Google blocking my account and me not being able to contact anyone to get access to it ever again.


This right here. This is why I left Google.


I don't think India is a lawless jungle as you portray it.

Indian authorities have tried to ban cryptocurrencies but have repeatedly been blocked by the courts. Whatever you think about crypto this indicates a healthy division of power and check against government overreach.


You might want to read Section 91 of the CrPC: https://indiankanoon.org/doc/788840/


Bullshit. India is not an autocratic country. Indian people’s rights are well protected by rule of law.


The same law that gives any officer in charge of a police station the authority to demand any data deemed desirable for the purposes of any investigation, inquiry, trial or other proceeding?


Are you serious? I wish there were an an emoji for a hollow, scornful laugh.

India is not an autocratic country only as long as the autocrats at any level don't deem you a threat. Otherwise you are screwed. When the law makers and law enforcers form a tight bond, what is the meaning of "protected" and "rule of law"?

Try getting the law involved when you don't want to pay a bribe.

Try peacefully protesting for people's rights. https://www.wired.com/story/modified-elephant-planted-eviden... There is v little room for dissent under this govt.

Try appealing to the law by getting the local MLA/MP's goons off your land.

I could go on ....


It's the same in western countries


No, not really. Of course shit happens everywhere, but the scale is VASTLY different.


In Western countries:

  1. They use the law to do the same thing
  2. The media doesn't report on it


You can choose to have your data in GDPR-compliant EU-based datacenter


> whims of a private American corporation

Exactly. Private corporations that adhere to US law and have demonstrated that they don't operate in good faith.

Each country should control official channels of communication.


Not only that, but US digital law hasn't caught up to modernity. One can make the argument that European laws have, at least to a much greater extent.


Or, instead of this kind of teleological framing, that they are entitled to their own values, but are not entitled to enforce them on the rest of the world.

P.S.: In a perhaps different sense, it has been decades since modernity ended.


I don't get your point.


"caught up to modernity" = history has some predetermined direction AND the writer knows what that direction is (AND because of this the writer is good, while people who hold opposite views and/or values are bad)

Am I mistaken somehow ?

And notably, this was a fairly common view during the height of the modern age (19th century), so much that its incompatibility with societal liberalism was widely ignored, probably because it allowed for paternalistic colonialism, which made the people practicing it very rich...


>Private corporations that adhere to US law

the sentiment methinks is misplaced. the US is a 23 trillion dollar GDP. sooner or later, all private corporations adhere to its law.

a better observation is that technocratic trappings of neoliberalism are more akin to neofeudalism than most western governments are willing to confess in 2022, lest they anger the spirit of Thatcher and Reagan or god forbid induce some sort of mass reform.

Vint Cerf said it best at the southern california linux expo when he explained how the digital frontier is really no different for sovreignity than air, land, sea, and space are. You either delineate the domain and maintain stewardship of it, or youre at the mercy of others with the digital equivalent of bluewater navy and satellites. the EU masto instance is a shot across the bow for major US corporations in that a contested battleground has been abruptly created in the absence of leadership and command at the largest fleet carrier (twitter)


I mostly agree, but:

> the US is a 23 trillion dollar GDP. sooner or later, all private corporations adhere to its law.

While the EU and China are not quite as large as the USA on their own, they are close enough that many multinational corporations already face the challenge of being the servants of three masters.


>Each country should control official channels of communication.

I don't want to create 100 accounts to access each countries totally unique and special websites. It's a bad system and ultimately will lead to less discourse and not more.


Forgive me if I'm mistaken, I've never used mastodon, but I expect part of the "federated" bit means being able to "follow" users from other Mastodon instances, including EU Voice. So you'd need just one account on a Mastodon instances to follow every EU government/institution announcements on EU Voice. If not on Mastodon, RSS feeds still exist.


It's completely correct. You can follow say @EU_Commission@social.network.europa.eu from an account on say mastodon.nz.


> I don't want to create 100 accounts to access each countries totally unique and special websites. It's a bad system and ultimately will lead to less discourse and not more.

However, unless you are a resident of 100 countries, it's probably not particularly essential that you do so, is it? I mean, I can imagine my being interested in the official channels of communication for governments of countries in which I am not a resident, but I cannot imagine why they should care to make it particularly easy for me to access those communications. It seems that the most that I should be able to ask is easy read-only access without having to sign up for a special account.


Jes, kaj estas tre malfacila kie homoj diras kun lingvoj ce mi ne komprenas.

Do, ĉiuj homoj devas paroli Esperanton.

;)


Mi ne ĝenus, se ĉiuj scius Esperanton. :d


You don’t have to create an account to read posts on mastodon


> This is an indication that Google underestimates the value of data stored by users.

That becomes apparent if you ever had any issue with a google product. There's no way to resolve issues outside of canned answers from "AI" systems and public forums.


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