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8th grade is old enough to do just about anything. I like to do big memorable projects with my kid where we both have to learn some things along the way. I’d build a go kart at this age, or some other electric motor driven vehicle. I’d think it would span a few months depending on time dedicated. And covers mechanical, fabrication, components and even some programming if you want to tune it yourself.

Also, I like to reinforce the concept of “dreaming it up”, tell my kids to think of a thing to make and we break down the steps we think are needed to build it. At first, it’s like their imagination wasn’t big enough. They’d have an idea and I’d show them how we could build it pretty easily. Now, it’s gotten to where they know the skies the limit and anything of kind of possible so they start big and then work their way back down to a realistic scope of features. All to say, ask your kid what they want to build!


This is a great way to teach long term planning and goal setting.

The apps you build are cross-platform apps. The tool itself isn’t. That’s how I read it anyways, nothing misleading that I saw

the apps you build will be cross-platform "soon" (no specific timeframe)

https://electrobun.dev/docs/guides/Compatability


It’s the HN link description that’s confusing y’all then? Because the home page, where you clicked before navigating to the compatibility page, says they “aim… to be cross-platform” says nothing of that being the current state

You’re just trying to give us the gist of things with images. It’s basically selling your thing to me as something I would want to try out. Usually if I connect with something I see in first few moments then my likelihood of trying the thing out is higher.

We don’t need it to be updated on every commit. Or illustrated docs but some idea of what I’m getting myself into is nice to have.


I tend to agree. I struggle to understand how a company runs a browser product without being eventually seen as a monopoly. They’re making a unique product ecosystem of browser and apps, just like everyone else, no need to keep coming down on whoever is successful at it. People can vote with their feet and use a dozen other options.

> I struggle to understand how a company runs a browser product without being eventually seen as a monopoly.

Just like for example how a car company can make cars without being a monopoly. Not the best example, but we’re so used to a monopoly it’s tough to imagine what a competitive browser market would look like.


Browsers have never generated enough revenue directly to be competitive. Indirectly they help companies build platforms. When done well enough, we call it a monopoly. I’m actually in favor of restricting their use of tracking but I also think forcing them to divest from the browser business seems heavy handed.

Actually no I don’t want to be able to work like that on a laptop monitor. I’d rather optimize my full screen real estate. There in lies the conflict.

Since in most cases, most lines don't even reach 80 characters, or they're long enough to still wrap at 120, there's not a lot of optimization going on.

Going from 80 to 120 will net you, what -- an extra 2 or 4 lines in your viewport?

It's not worth the optimization when you lose so much for the reasons I described.


If I wanted extra lines, I'd probably use my monitors in tall mode. I mainly just don't want to think about line wrapping at all, that's the optimization for me.

I also tend to work on a single file at a time versus trying to view multiple files side by side. But when I do want to do that, I'm not trying to work on a laptop monitor, so I have 2 monitors for that use case.

The white space I have available but typically don't use, simply doesn't bother me. I like some white space, I'm not seeking out density as some productivity hack, I can tab to another file when I want to see it, seeing them both at same time isn't a huge requirement of mine.

It sounds like you have a job that has you frequently doing code jams on a tiny monitor (why? you got pulled into someone's office? you coding on a train?) so this works for your normal situations. You're not understanding that I avoid those situations. I code from a desk with a full setup or I don't code, I take notes about what changes need to be done when I get back to coding.


I have 4 dual flushes that get fully flushed each use. The low flow option doesn’t even move enough water to clear the bowl of a single bladder full of urine. That is to say, it doesn’t flush. So we don’t like them. I also heard women tend to really dislike them, something about the flush mechanism is gross. Pushing a button I suppose.

So you mean, US women rather won't flush? How's that less gross? Or I'm misreading you?

I don’t know if they refuse flushing but they don’t want them in their house is what I’ve found out. I put them in our house without consulting my wife and apparently everyone we’ve discussed it with is of the opinion of “eww gross, why would you do that”. It’s usually a funny story to tell if we get asked about our house and building process, almost without fail a man will see it as no big deal “efficiency good” and women don’t like it “buttons gross”

I imagine they may use a piece of paper to avoid pushing the buttons directly.


Wait wait, you mean they despise flushing in general? Is every US house fitted with flush triggers? Or how else can you flush, if no button? You mean maybe those women are simply fine with the smell? You only managed to confuse me more :)

Most toilets here have a lever. And no, flushing isn’t despised you keep jumping to weird conclusions

This must be part of the problem. People complain about them here (in the US) all the time. I'm wondering if we're not producing crappy dual flush toilets in this country compared to overseas where they've presumably be manufacturing them for a generation or so.

Dual flush doesnt work as well with US sized bowls. You need the entire toilet fitting to be designed for it, not just retrofit the cistern.

This was the same problem low-flow had in the 90s or early 2000s (so common it even made a full episode of King of the Hill), they didn't redesign the bowls very well to handle it.

I wonder if that would be seen as a net negative on the happiness scale due to the fact that people tend to dislike those jobs.

I think if you’re taught your whole life to seek happiness, a younger generation could largely look curiously out into the world as a source of happiness. In the western world, when you poll any population of people asking what they are “passionate” about Travel is always going to be a top ranked answer. It brings people joy, exploration is an innate curiosity of humans. So, my guess/hypothesis would be they are looking for happiness as they’ve been raised/conditioned to do.


Yet you felt the need to come post it to HN to give it a boost. It’s not like you wrote it in good faith and it organically found its way here. This is pure and simple the exact kind of content that drips of bias and deserves all the skepticism it’s receiving here in the comments.

I think a lot of bullying is rooted in a form of social awkward way to initiate play. And/or a form of testing the other to see if 1) the other kid is a equal alpha/beta scale in the pecking order or 2) a weakling that will tolerate bullying behavior thus boosting my alpha/beta standing in the pack.

There’s obviously some other complexity but i think this sums up a lot of the most common reasons that almost every kids will give/receive at some point. Some kids are just pure evil and enjoy inflicting pain, that’s out there but less common.


this is true in my experience. There is the stupid psychotic kind of bully, but there is also the misguided kind that thinks this is how boys are supposed to bond. In my case I cried when I was bullied after several times cause i thought it was so uncool and he stopped and we became friends. Not super close or anything. I guess i figured he wasn't stupid or evil.

I became friends with most people that tested my boundaries (I don’t even like calling what I experienced “bullying” it was so minor). But I was also always extremely intolerant of it. Meaning, I fought back or retaliated in equal or worse ways. It wasn’t the best way but it worked. I moved a lot as a kid and there was always a new group I was having to integrate with and so I got used to dealing with all the typically stuff that came with that. I once had a kid messing with me on a school bus, I asked him to stop, tried to avoid sitting near him, but finally after about 3 days of him doing whatever he was doing I smacked him across the nose with the spine of my textbook and there was so much blood. I got detention for a week and some corporal punishment (smacks with a wooden paddle iirc). He never messed with me again and I became Mr. Popularity for standing up to this kid who was I guess a jerk to everyone. It was only second grade and didn’t last because we moved again at the end of the year. I don’t remember if i became friends with that guy, that memory stands out because my reaction was so severe. By middle school, we’d do dumb stuff like smack each other in the back of the head or tripping each other in the halls of school. The kids that didn’t participate probably felt bullied when some one tried to “befriend them”, everyone else became friends. We all would laugh about it and play together at recess, basketball, wallball, etc came out of it.

Now, I’m a dad of a 6 year old son. We’ve been telling him his whole life to be respectful and keep his hands to himself. He has and is truly baffled by kids with aggressive attitudes. He’s been around it occasionally his whole life, having to play nice or talk it out with another kid but while he’s still pretty chill and peaceful it’s now obvious he’s essentially bully bate. He’s too kind and tolerant of other kids being jerks. This past few months we made the switch to telling him that defending himself is OK. It felt weird, like we did everything right but now have to backtrack because of the failure of other parents. Or, and maybe more likely, it’s the case that some kids are just more innately better/worse behaved and we just haven’t properly prepared our kid to deal with it. Idk but I’m totally willing to deal with the fallout of him getting in trouble defending himself versus the fallout of him not defending himself and being a victim with lasting damage to his self confidence/mental health.


This. I’m exactly in this YouTube tv camp and most the time just miss the simplicity of the old cable. Having to find things to watch is for me and awful experience. Then when I do want to watch something trying to figure out which app it’s actually on is awful. I think we subscribed to a dozen different things, it’s so damn fragmented. Even in early days if Netflix, I was a holdout that kept going to blockbuster because the UI of visually scanning a wall/shelf of DVDs was far superior to the Netflix version of the same IMO.

This is definitely turning into my version of an old man rant. “Back in my day…” the main benefit of it all is I actually just don’t watch as much as I once did. The friction is too high. Or, the commitment is too high-I dont usually want to jump into some 10 episode series.


Well I haven’t gone back to linear TV, I totally get it.

I don’t subscribe to anything that doesn’t work with my Apple TV. Netflix for example won’t integrate with it the way Hulu does. So whatever show I’m watching on Netflix? Wouldn’t show up in my show list on my Apple TV. I forget it exists.

So I don’t subscribe to it. Or anything else like that. You are NOT more important than me, service I pay for.

The only two exceptions are YouTube (which obviously works differently) and Plex for the few things that I already already owned on DVD or can’t get on any service.

It works well enough for me. But I still find myself missing a linear TV now and then.


I've certainly listened to some fascinating documentaries on BBC Radio 4 on subjects which it would never have occurred to me to seek out. There's definitely some advantages to linear broadcast.

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