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> to what end?

People making cooking websites, websites for their garden, etc usually have nowhere to go. A web app who is an agent for a customer will then deploy agents in the backend to deploy the website too.

Basically what one would do manually, you tell one agent to make another agent do it.

Meta agents are where are going it seems.


> People making cooking websites, websites for their garden, etc usually have nowhere to go.

They've had WYSIWYG website builders since the late 1990s.


They don't have anymore. At least not since Artisteer shut down.

What about SquareSpace and the like?

It's certainly a great and useful tool. But it's a website maker somewhat in the same way that a Facebook page or Instagram account is a website maker.

AFAIK you can't make a website on SquareSpace and download it to your computer, edit it locally and move it to a different host, etc.

In the past there were actual WYSIWYG editors which let you design your website or CMS theme and then do whatever you wished with it. Artisteer was the pinnacle of this. Then nerds took over with their command lines and Kubernetes.

Imagine if one day people decided that making and editing documents in Word was no longer possible, that they had to be hand coded and command line compiled and linted, and not mix tabs and spaces. That's what happened to website publishing. For no reason at all.


2 minutes on Google showed me that DreamWeaver is still around and getting updates, so those desktop tools still exist as well.

I think that's the real gap. Non-technical people don't want to learn DreamWeaver or SquareSpace's backend. They want to describe what they need and have it just work.

Markdown.

> People making cooking websites, websites for their garden, etc usually have nowhere to go.

You know, I kind of miss Geocities too.


While large social media sites have captured lots of traffic, etc. I've had small websites for a local wargaming club, a very modest blog, etc. for decades requiring little or no technical expertise.

The idea that people who want modest websites need active agentic systems to do that is a really odd take.


Sadly they will be publishing on a web which has no human readers anymore because it’s been crowded out by 5 trillion AI slop gardening websites. And the only visitors will be other AI scraper bots.

Any actual readers will be on platforms which combat the bot spam.


Im assuming (though rare) it’s the same with flights. They keep the schedule for movies in case someone joins half hour late. Plenty of people visit my the cinema for all kinds of reasons other than the content (like sleeping in the AC among other things that come to your mind). Keeping the movie going rather than waiting for someone to show up and make it awkward would probably be better for customer service too.

Well it's very different for flights, they need the plane at the destination so they have to fly it. With movies it's probably just simpler to start the movie than to try to manage the logistics of not starting it, just to save 2 hours on the projection bulb.

These days that's probably true, but when a projectionist needed to roll the film and babysit the equipment I doubt it would be worthwhile.

Not to mention that film rolls do wear out overtime.


One of my student jobs was to transport film spools to theaters. They would arrive at my door in a box, I would walk them to the cinema on a small trolley and spend 2-3 hours in the projection rooms. The reels were spliced on site by a technician, projected, cut again and I transported them back home where they would be picked up again.

The job was less to transport the spools, but to supervise that there was no copying happening.

This was late 200x-ish, before digital protection became widespread iirc.


Wow. Was there any premier viewings on the spools you moved?

Actually yes. It's been a while, but now that you mention that, that probably was the reason for somebody (me) bringing the reels to the cinemas for a single showing in the first place.

> different for flights

Maybe. Depends.

I’m sure I’ve heard of the low cost carriers cancelling flights that are under-sold at the last minute.

Would make sense if the destination has fewer tickets sold from there.


During COVID a lot of empty flights flew because otherwise the airline could lose the gate slots.

I once flew on a flight from ORD to ROC where I was the only passenger. It was very, very weird to be in a big empty cabin all by myself. The flight attendant just came and did the safety briefing sitting next to me. I asked her why they didn't just cancel the flight, and she said the plane had to be in ROC for the next morning anyway. This was in the 1990s though. I've never encountered anything like that since.

It is still like that. The airline’s operations all depend on the flight crew being in the right place at the end of the flight, which is a higher priority than getting a passenger there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_United_Express_passenger_...


Dao was taken to a hospital with non-life-threatening injuries, including a broken nose, loss of two front teeth, sinus injuries, and "a significant concussion"; the injuries required reconstructive surgery, according to Dao's lawyer.

and

"He said, 'I can’t get off the plane. I have to get home. I'm a doctor. I have to get to the hospital in the morning.'" Myers stated that her response was not appropriate: "She said, 'Well, then I'll just have to call the police and have you escorted off the plane.'

Savage.


I had a similar experience. Christmas Day from CRW to CLT. Just me and the stewardesses.

They tried to sit near me and be friendly, but I was too depressed to engage. Missed opportunity.


This makes sense if someone bought a ticket and didn't showed up, but what if none was sold? They could just stop selling after a certain time and be sure nobody will be there late.

When I worked at a small cinema we would set up the movie to run regardless, because sometimes you would get late-showers buying tickets at the front desk and it's much more trouble to have to speed-start a movie for the projectionist than to be able to do it at the regular schedule. If you start it too late without manually remembering to forward past ads and trailers, you can also risk spilling into the next timeslot causing a pileup of delays. It's far simpler to just start the movie for an empty hall, and let customers join after it's started if they want to.

I'm unsure exactly how the deals with local businesses running ads before the movies are set up, but I could imagine that you're supposed to be running the ads an agreed upon number of times, regardless of ticket sales.

Sometimes in the daytime we would get retirees who would watch a movie and basically loiter around, and occasionally ask if they could catch the end of a different movie running in an empty hall. You'd sometimes let a regular crash an empty screening like this if they bought an extra snack or coffee for it or something.


Studio contracts: The movies are delivered digitally on encrypted hard disks and when playing there is a ton of telemetry sent back to the studios. They are watching the theaters like its 1984. Studios have contracts indicating the play will play X times no more and probably no less(else studios might hold back the good movies). AMC keeps it simple. Play the movie even if no one shows up. AMC in particular uses laser projectors now so who cares. They ain't burning out any projector bulb.

How I see SF : I have 200mn dollar worth of shares of an AI company. I’ll buy it from you for 200mn worth of shares of an ad agency. We both would however need to turn these ‘assets’ into cash from banks to buy groceries. The banks don’t rate these very highly. So we are worth maybe 5mn if we consider book value.


>use only Whatsapp

WhatsApp here in India has so much spam now. With ads, I am starting to think these spam are just ads sold by WhatsApp.


The goal of advertising is to hammer you with the same content again and again until your brain associates something with the product. Like shampoo associated with what you see everyday in the advertisement.

However in order to do this, whether you are selling or buying, you have to have the scale. And the scale of big players is now too big to compete.

And even if you do, your infrastructure will run on any of these big companies who can do anything to your traffic to keep their business and later pay fines for unethical practices that are minor compared to the profits.


In all this, people now just go to the Apple Store and buy a cable for their Apple device. This confusion benefitted such vendors and now they sell 1$ cable for an absurd amount of profit.


> notable exception of Apple

I don’t think Apple is an exception. I think they have also over hired but they are also scaling, albeit slower than they used to. The scaling elsewhere is not happening, especially meta where they are trying to extract money from every corner they can find out of desperation, and so the books need to become lighter.

For Apple, hiring more than they need can be soaked into the books because their sales and profits keep increasing, though the rate of growth has slowed. However, if it’s an expense that can be avoided, then it’s an expense that should be avoided.


PopOS


This looks like it might be the best solution, no snap, maintained by an actual system integrator and laptop maker, and I also like the new Rust-based desktop environment. I wonder how well it runs on Framework laptops or MacBooks as well.


Runs great on framework. Not sure about COSMIC on asahi.


Isn't that essentially a release of Ubuntu with a different kernel, DE and maybe some userspace utilities?


Yes.

Linux Mint, Zorin OS, Linux Lite, Pop OS, and several less famous distros are all based on Ubuntu. New versions of all of them will follow this new LTS release in time.

Mint forked GNOME 3 to make something more Windows-like.

Zorin customised upstream GNOME with a lot of extensions.

Pop removed it and replaced it with their own homegrown desktop, written in Rust. It's actually pretty good and works well.


PopOS started as Ubuntu with better hardware enablment but it has evolved far beyond that. They have been removing all the snap stuff. The have done tons of work on DE (Cosmic) and in general don't go along with Gnome or Ubuntu strangness. But yes its Ubuntu and Debian derived.


Ubuntu LTS is still the choice for many production environments and education and learning. As someone with Ubuntu from 2010 CDs, I find it refreshing that modern Ubuntu distros work OOB on most computers these days with excellent driver support.


Is this even true? I mean, Windows is the main focus for all hardware vendors, and everybody who has owned a PC knows that malfunctions are unavoidable. If that is the case for Windows, then Linux cant be better.


There's working, and there's working.

20 years ago your Linux installation might not include wifi drivers, bluetooth support, decent GPU drivers, fat32/ntfs drivers, or the widely used video/audio codecs of the era. And you had to be careful when shopping for things like wifi cards, as only certain chipsets could be made to work.

Much of which was kinda fair enough, because if you're a volunteer making an open source OS because of a strong belief on the open source ideal, you don't want to distribute closed-source driver blobs or patent-encumbered codecs. But it meant mean the initial installation process was not always easy. One of the things that contributed to the success of Ubuntu was a particularly easy initial setup process.

Today, things are a lot better - you'll still get unsupported hardware from time to time, but it'll be much less severe. If your laptop has a non-USB integrated camera you might have to download and install a kernel module. Your corporate laptop's built in fingerprint scanner might not work, but who cares?


> 20 years ago your Linux installation might not include wifi drivers, bluetooth support, decent GPU drivers, fat32/ntfs drivers, or the widely used video/audio codecs of the era.

To be quite fair, this is pretty much the only reason Ubuntu exists. It started off as "Debian for people who just want stuff to work", but these days Debian even ships non-free wifi drivers on the install media. I've personally used both extensively and apart from the "enterprise support" argument and the minor convenience of having ZFS pre-compiled, I see no reason to use Ubuntu.


https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/glossary/linux-standard-base/

When I was shopping Lenovo.com for my ThinkPad in 2018, there was a table with ThinkPads certified for Ubuntu Linux in one column, and certified for Red Hat Enterprise Linux in another column.

I chose the T580 as a RHEL-certified notebook, and it was fantastic. Lenovo.com let me configure each individual component exactly according to my needs and tastes, and it was custom-assembled and shipped from Shenzhen.

It did arrive with Windows 10 pre-installed (this was the least hassle and most popular OS option). I initially installed CentOS, but quickly realized that Fedora would be the sweet spot, and so it was a Fedora system for most of its lifetime. Near the end, I did revert to Windows 10, which also worked flawlessly.

The ThinkPad T580 literally never malfunctioned. It was still 100% working when I turned it in for recycling in 2025.

I've also run Ubuntu on my "daily driver" desktop system, which ran from 2006-2022. Yes, that's 16 years' worth of Ubuntu installs and upgrades. It was mostly a KDE Plasma (Kubuntu) system. I enjoyed every bit of that.

In 1999, I was avidly using OpenBSD on really old hardware (such as HP Apollo 425t workstations.) OpenBSD simply couldn't deal with the special graphics subsystem on those machines. I tried and tried to get something working, but there were obstacles, not only with the hardware and drivers, but also the monitor connection needed a particular type of cabling and a proprietary monitor, too.

However, OpenBSD did great for networking, security, Squid cache, proxies, all kinds of things. And even in 1999, though it was early, I ran Linux on a 386DX-40, because Linux supported the "ftape" floppy tape driver at that time, and I had some kind of QIC tape backup from Eagle that wouldn't be recognized by OpenBSD or NetBSD.

Meanwhile, in that same year, my "daily driver" desktop machine was a 486 with VLB, dual-booting Windows 98 and OpenBSD. The Windows 98 was set up with a Cygwin system and X11 server, so that I could run X11 clients on the OpenBSD machines, or the Linux machine, or whatever else was on the LAN.


Windows 11 set a low bar to clear... Most popular hardware will work on linux, but like always its better to check before your buy.

Distro like Ubuntu are a fair compromise to get amd/nvidia GPU drivers, wifi, and brother laser printer/scanner networking installed. =3

edit: seriously, why down vote the guys karma if its a honest question. Try to be kind people.


Linux has been better for old hardware since early 00s. Just don't expect hw acceleration to work for older GPUs.


Windows is a dumpster fire at this point. Just unusable


So for third party apps this seems like if you do e2e then along with this bug fix your texts are safe. E2E apps could be independently verified by a third party let’s say.

But what about iMessage. The source code will never be available for neither the servers nor the app.


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