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They could at least have the decency to just secretly do it and then pretend like they aren't, like our government does. This is why physical switches and removable batteries are the only way forward.


> This is why physical switches and removable batteries are the only way forward.

You'd gain nothing. What are you going to do, remove the battery for a couple hours per day?

And then if there's any crime, the police is going to immediately suspect anyone who had the battery removed from their cell phone at the time, which they can trivially detect.


what is "our" government? this site is worldwide..


Fairly certain you can apply this to nearly any government.


Any government with the resources to do it, probably is.


I like this comment because I always assume a majority of people here are Americans, but I'm not, and maybe it's not true anymore.


I'd be willing to bet that less than half of this site's users are American. There is a huge software engineering community in Europe, for example, and there are more Europeans than Americans, let alone the large populations of Asia, Australia, New Zealand...


Psssssh, everyone knows that New Zealand doesn't exist, it's why it's not on any maps!


I've (unfortunately) got a habit of accidentally assuming forums are "in the US". I think I would put it down to a couple of things:

1. Most native English speakers are in the US, so the accidental assumption that someone is American is more often than not correct.

2. The internal voice that reads text to me has a generic male American accent.


The US is the largest country with english speakers, but it does not have the majority of speakers [1] (just India plus Pakistan have as many). So your assumption would be wrong, even based on statistics.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_English...


That's why I qualified it with "native" - the US has by far the most English-as-a-first-language people. In my head everyone speaks like an Anglo guy from Idaho, and since HN is text-only, metaphorically speaking the lights are out, so I'm left without a clue where other people are sitting or where they are from.

In other words, if you found yourself in a dark room with a thousand English speakers who all sounded like Jesse Pinkman, what country would you assume you were in?


I'd be willing to bet that less than half of this site's users are American. There is a huge software engineering community in Europe, for example, and there are more Europeans than Americans, let alone the large populations of Asia, Australia, New Zealand...

English is the dominant second language in the world.


I would agree with that, at least for this site. I wouldn't be surprised if the ratio was 1 to 10, since tech skews it significantly. For example, I work in tech in the US, and the only American I've spoken to today was my summer intern, and - oh hold up, I just typed that and realized she's from Canada. OK, I've been in work meetings all day and I have not spoken to a "US American" during that time. I suspect that other sites, particularly some subreddits, are mostly American, though.


> 2. The internal voice that reads text to me has a generic male American accent.

That's weird and pretty interesting if your own accent isn't a male American accent.


Take your pic, most G8-20 are doing this.


Pick one


Y Combinator is an American company and the website is hosted in the US.


Personally I think that "X is an American site" is over-used and doesn't actually make all that much sense when applied to things that cover general world-spanning issues.

But that's my opinion.


no one implied that, stop being silly


> Y Combinator is an American company and the website is hosted in the US.

What else would this imply?


I wrote a stupid message first that the person above you replied to accurately, I changed my stupid message to be less stupid while still reflecting my opinion on the matter.


Thank you for saying this so I don’t look insane, ahaha


Ah, sorry. Didn't realize it was edited.


What relevance does that have to the question, may I ask. Do you think, for example, that every user of Twitter is American because Twitter is an American company?!


Google, reddit, amazon, twitter, and every meta website too.

This is a dumb observation.

US people needs to stop pretending the USA are the only place that matters on earth.


This article is about France tho.


they have no doubt been doing it, they're just using the panic of a brainwashed population thinking they're on the brink of Islamic revolution to normalize it


At this point, they don't even need to brainwash anybody - they will just 49/3'd the law and say "xxxx it" to the parliament.


Gonna have to agree to disagree.

I feel it's significantly better to know that someone is doing the spying and all that. Why should they hide that they can spy on whoever they choose? When they don't make clear what happens, we end up in a position where everyone's uncertain. And, as history has shown, it makes things significantly more difficult.

There's no decency in that.


> and removable batteries

Probably that's why the batteries are not removable in the phones...


Nah, profit motive by the companies is reason enough.


Or making the phone more reliable, particular in high-humidity climates, where you want to prevent air from getting to the electronics as much as practical.



Meh, phones with removable batteries are still being made. Samsung's Galaxy Cover line has plenty of phones with removable batteries. Some even feature the much feared IP68.


The sad part is that this very same can be said about 99% of the laws and regulations that are written. He is 73 years old and listening to him speak I don't think he could figure out how to set the clock on a microwave, much less understand the intricacies of the bleeding edge of the most transformative technology to come about in the last 40 years. I very seriously doubt he knows anything besides what is fed to him by the very companies that are to be regulated. Lobbyists write our laws, congress is just there to collect the money from them and plan their insider stock trades accordingly.


I cancelled since their prices kept getting less and less competitive, and packages were taking a week to show up with "free" "two day" prime shipping. I finally had to report my card as lost to stop them from charging me. Even after I didn't have prime anymore they had the sketchy dark patterns at checkout trying to get you to sign up again so I cancelled my amazon account entirely (which was also a huge pain in the ass that was full of dark patterns). I thought it was going to be a huge pain without amazon as an option but really I haven't missed it. Other companies and even mom & pop stores have really stepped up their online shopping so I have actually had better prices, shipping times, and experiences since quitting amazon. For such a massive corporation the tactics they use are early 2000's satellite TV provider tier. It's embarrassing.


For me I didn't cancel my account, I just gradually stopped shopping there since the results were full of dropshippers selling identical crappy products, making it impossible to find anything in decent quality and even if you do, i stopped trusting that the products I would receive wouldn't be fake. I used to order a lot on amazon, now I do it about twice a year.


Call me crazy, but I still think VR is just going to be a small niche. It's not a question of who is making it, how much cheaper they can build it, or what PR machine is pushing it. It's just a bad form factor. They are going to keep on trying because strapping ads and trackers directly to people's heads is the big tech wet dream, but I don't think we are looking at the next smartphone by any means.


About 4-5 weeks a year. 'Unlimited' pto is a scummy practice and they wouldn't do it unless it was in their best interest. I have enough to deal with in life without losing sleep over irl dark patterns, so I take off when I feel like I need it. If they don't like that then they should go back to a set number.


My philosophy on anything like this, whether it happens to align with my beliefs or not, is that the truth shouldn't fear scrutiny. If a company, government, or person decides to show how right they are by banning dissent then it should be a red flag even if you agree with them on the actual issue. I'm all for self moderation tools so people don't have to see anything they don't want to but I don't need anyone deciding what opinions are 'correct' enough for me to see.


My philosophy after years of this is that there is no such thing as truth, or at least it's sort of like a mathematical construct; it may exist in some sort of theory of reality, but not in actual reality. Basically we all get to determine what's true for ourselves.


Yeah I'm sure hypothetical interference is the reason At&t is shitting their pants over this. If you can't beat them by bettering your own service, drag government roadblocks in front of them. The At&t way.


This seems like a lot of work compared to just putting decent switches in their stuff to begin with.


I had it change to dark mode, then when I asked it to add a tasteful picture of a chicken to the center of the screen and it reverted back to white (sans chicken). Maybe someday I will get my text-to-dark-mode-tasteful-chicken-picture-landing-page generator, but it seems that day is not today.


At the speed the united states government works at whatever regulations they draft will be completely obsolete by the time they are in place.


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