I "failed" a job interview recently to the reason that they didn't have faith in my jQuery (any by extension Javascript) skills.
I managed to write a multi-page response explaining how the modern frameworks were moving away from jquery in favour of data bindings, virtual dom, etc... while I acknowledge that there is still a place for jQuery, it has a very much diminished role in modern web development.
In the end, I never sent the email in response. While it was cathartic to write, I really didn't want to come across as "sour grapes". (and truth be told, I respected their decision... I'd feel a better fit in a more technology forward environment, their reliance on "old faithful" technologies can still make money)
I feel like even angular has come-and-gone as a framework the 1.x just isn't performant on busy pages. Anything with a log of ng-repeats gets out of hand. Though I suppose that could also mean that I'm writing bad pages too.
My most recent favorite is Leo Horie's https://lhorie.github.io/mithril/ We've got some of that running in production and it really is beautiful to work with.
I'd like to try REACT, but haven't found the right project for it yet.
I've sortof started rambling here... my point was I share your experience with employers looking for "old" tech.
I dont understand, if mithril is good why would you want to try react? Personally I'm trying to solve a problem (make complex ui easy to code and understand)
Either mithril solves it or it doesnt..?
I think the reason I want to try react is to compare and contrast the various approaches.
I've written both angular & mithril for production. So far I haven't enjoyed anything as much as mithril. It is so clean & pure. It stays almost completely out of your way.
In fact there are places where I'm actually running angular INSIDE mithril pages (long story, part of migrating a project from angular to mithril, without losing legacy pages)
I would like to start a react project from scratch to see what it's like. To compare what one really, really smart guy (Leo) came up with against the mighty multibillion dollar facebook.
Leo has a day job and mithril is spare-time, facebook has a staff dedicated to react. Facebook is committed to working on react long term as a corporate strategy. Leo could get bored and walk away.
Additionally there's the aspect of looking at react-native. It makes me suspect that there may be a long term value in being aware of the patterns used in the react.
I struggle to believe it could be better than mithril, but who knows? I haven't tried it yet!
Finally there's the "learning things is fun" side of things.
FYI, Mithril is largely a scratch-my-own-itch kind of project project and I use it heavily at work, so I'm definitely not going to walk away from it :)
But what if you're in a Starbucks, and the person behind you is the head of BMA Model's hands and feet division? (http://www.bmamodels.com/hands_legs_feet). As you reach for your frappachino you're "discovered" as the next-big-thing. About to explode into the glamorous, yet high stakes world of hand-modelling. It's a multi million dollar deal... but with the stipulation... no more coding effective immediately.
What happens to mithril then Leo? What then?
If it happened at facebook they'd give the job to Jimmy "Stubby Fingers" Malone and move on.
Obviously I'm teasing (hopefully at least).
I think there are actually a lot of advantages to your running mithril lean & (mostly) solo.
You contribute and participate in all those places and even turn up on HN.
It does make it a consideration when selecting a direction for a project though. It's a bit of a risk awareness/tolerance thing. I still think C# is way better than node.js for some things too :)
I think they failed the job interview. jQuery is great, but with React or Angular (or Mithril? don't know what that is) it has become unnecessary. Unless you wanted the job fixing all of their old javascript bugs, in which case my condolences.
I managed to write a multi-page response explaining how the modern frameworks were moving away from jquery in favour of data bindings, virtual dom, etc... while I acknowledge that there is still a place for jQuery, it has a very much diminished role in modern web development.
In the end, I never sent the email in response. While it was cathartic to write, I really didn't want to come across as "sour grapes". (and truth be told, I respected their decision... I'd feel a better fit in a more technology forward environment, their reliance on "old faithful" technologies can still make money)
I feel like even angular has come-and-gone as a framework the 1.x just isn't performant on busy pages. Anything with a log of ng-repeats gets out of hand. Though I suppose that could also mean that I'm writing bad pages too.
My most recent favorite is Leo Horie's https://lhorie.github.io/mithril/ We've got some of that running in production and it really is beautiful to work with.
I'd like to try REACT, but haven't found the right project for it yet.
I've sortof started rambling here... my point was I share your experience with employers looking for "old" tech.