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Interesting, a lot of pubs who can afford it simply get a satellite dish and a subscription to a foreign channel. Saves them thousands a month and they get all of the important matches. Although some commentary is in a foreign language.


Indeed; in my regular pre-match pub a working knowledge of cyrillic has come in handy to decode the names of English teams from the televised Bulgarian :)


My local did this, until he was caught, prosecuted and subsequently lost his job/business and something like £30-40k IIRC.


I know many who do this and Sky activly try to pressure the publicans to purchase sky but can't do anything about it.


Yeah this was in 07/08-ish - I think someone successfully challenged them in court since.


it's legal to show a foreign language too.


Yup, a publican went to court with Sky in the UK about this.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17150054


Wow "publican" is a real word, cool! As an American, I have never heard this and thought you were making it up.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/publican


It's a great word but it's not one I've heard often in person, usually people just say landlord.

(I live in Southern England, and this comment is only from my experience.)


Ireland here we use publican.


Publican is common in Australia.


Semi-OT, there's an excellent bar/restaurant in Chicago named Publican. If you're ever in Chicago, you should check it out.


For me it sounds like a real word, but refers to a tax collector (with similar connotations as "collaborator", though not quite "quisling".)


Surprised that people dislike this comment. This is a meaning for "publican" much older than pubs, and the also the meaning of "publican" as described in Wikipedia [0] and as many of us have learned at school about Gospel of Luke (where this role of a despised tax collector or collaborator with the occupying Roman empire was at heart of the parable of the Pharisee and the Publican).

[0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Publican [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharisee_and_the_Publican


> it costs £700 a month to see Premier League matches

Wow, that's ridiculous. I can see why people are trying to find ways to get it cheaper.


Wow, that's ridiculous. I can see why people are trying to find ways to get it cheaper.

It goes both ways; pubs are often packed to the rafters for games, with the beer flowing heavily throughout.


Seems absurdly cheap to me for something that draws in customers effectively. You'll probably make back the money in a few hours, and the rest of the month will be profit.


Not all pubs cant accept hundreds of people within there premises. And large crowds are only attracted for big games which are few and far between.


If showing games can't bring in an extra 700£/month then it hardly seems worth showing them to begin with.

I can't blame pub owners for wanting to save money wherever they can. But I don't see this as being particularly expensive for the context.


(American) pub owner here.

700£/month would be an absolutely massive expense in my place, and there's essentially no chance we could afford it. We don't get much draw for sporting events, even the Superbowl or what have you.

That doesn't mean that everyone in the place during the Superbowl doesn't want it on, though.

So although it couldn't possibly pay for itself at my place, not having it would also cost us quite a lot when there are big games.


I can see this being the problem for most small pubs in the UK as well. The UK is full of small local pubs that work on very small margins.


The Sky package for pubs is a lot more than £700. £1200 to £1500 per month more like.


It depends on the size of the pub and, therefore, how much extra beer money is likely to be brought in by the venue showing live football (etc)


That's for a commercial license.

Home subscriptions are about £25.


>To use any of these extra parts [chrome, trails, reviews, etc.] associated for a broadcast, a pub would need the permission of the Premier League. //

That's an interesting statement. Presumably though the Premier League licenses their feeds to multiple companies in different countries - shouldn't that exhaust their rights then; meaning a pub could sub-license from a foreign country within the EEA. Otherwise they're perverting free trade within the EEA.


There are actually talks within European Commision to make such country-based licensing illegal, i.e. it must be EU wide licensing, citing, as noted above, the free trade within the EEA.




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