Yeah, there are things I dislike about the East Coast. (Oddly enough, I'm moving to Chicago in January. I'm really looking forward to it.) I'm not a fan of DC's culture. As for Boston, I like the younger crowd a lot, but there's definitely a lack of progressivism that I see in Boston companies.
New York real estate is obnoxiously expensive, but yes, the people are more down to earth and less pedigree-obsessed than their counterparts in San Francisco. I won't pretend that pre-existing social class doesn't matter in New York; it's just not as big of a deal on a practical level. It matters if you're trying to get into nightclubs or exclusive parties, or to get your wedding published in the Times, but it doesn't infect your work life nearly as much. If you flash pedigree at your job too often, you become a pariah. I know a trader who was mocked after his wedding hit NYT, and I've known other people to be fired (in finance) for having too much visibility (for non-work "society" shit) in the press. Whereas in the Valley, you have to become a celebrity to have a career.
The difference between Stanford and Berkeley is founder with 30% (after the first round) vs. engineer with 0.5%. The difference between Harvard and Cornell is a $100k hedge fund job with a $20k signing bonus and a similar job with a $15k signing bonus.
On Chicago and the Midwest in general, I'd love to see the Midwest take off in technology, and I think it can. It's an underrated part of the country. I was just, for this purpose, comparing the blue-blooded noblesse oblige East Coast mentality to the monstrosity that's grown up in Silicon Valley (it's unfair to apply its stereotypes to the rest of the West Coast).
Moving to Chicago in January. Man, just hope that we have a warm winter, unlike last year. Take it with a grain of salt. I'm a east coaster born and raised. I only moved to chicago a year and a half ago. Something I noticed about Chicago: I met all of my neighbors within a week of moving in. I had never known my neighbors let alone was able to acknowledge them beyond a nod while on the coast.
If you want to go for a beer sometime after you move in. I would be willing to do that. Also, take a look at the CJUG, we're pretty active. I've heard good things about the Erlang and ruby group. It also seems that the code and cans meetup group is taking off.
Speaking of the midwest, can anyone comment on the tech culture in Kansas City? There seems to be a few large tech oriented companies and thriving job market (Sprint, Garmin, H+R Block, ...). Plus as the first metro to get Google fiber, I've heard there's a bit of a start up scene now.
Yeah, there are things I dislike about the East Coast. (Oddly enough, I'm moving to Chicago in January. I'm really looking forward to it.) I'm not a fan of DC's culture. As for Boston, I like the younger crowd a lot, but there's definitely a lack of progressivism that I see in Boston companies.
New York real estate is obnoxiously expensive, but yes, the people are more down to earth and less pedigree-obsessed than their counterparts in San Francisco. I won't pretend that pre-existing social class doesn't matter in New York; it's just not as big of a deal on a practical level. It matters if you're trying to get into nightclubs or exclusive parties, or to get your wedding published in the Times, but it doesn't infect your work life nearly as much. If you flash pedigree at your job too often, you become a pariah. I know a trader who was mocked after his wedding hit NYT, and I've known other people to be fired (in finance) for having too much visibility (for non-work "society" shit) in the press. Whereas in the Valley, you have to become a celebrity to have a career.
The difference between Stanford and Berkeley is founder with 30% (after the first round) vs. engineer with 0.5%. The difference between Harvard and Cornell is a $100k hedge fund job with a $20k signing bonus and a similar job with a $15k signing bonus.
On Chicago and the Midwest in general, I'd love to see the Midwest take off in technology, and I think it can. It's an underrated part of the country. I was just, for this purpose, comparing the blue-blooded noblesse oblige East Coast mentality to the monstrosity that's grown up in Silicon Valley (it's unfair to apply its stereotypes to the rest of the West Coast).