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This is known as the Dunning-Kruger effect[1], the cognitive bias that unskilled individuals overestimate their ability and skilled individuals underestimate it.

"The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias manifesting in two principal ways: unskilled individuals tend to suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than is accurate, while highly skilled individuals tend to rate their ability lower than is accurate. In unskilled individuals, this bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their ineptitude. Skilled individuals tend to underestimate their relative competence, erroneously assuming that tasks which are easy for them are also easy for others."

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect



Read the name of the OP's author. Go read your Wikipedia article. See anything? :D


Written with a tremendous amount of confidence.


Another interesting slant on this is imposter syndrome.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impostor_syndrome


I quoted Shakespeare because I admire him deeply and felt that my thoughts on the matter were relevant.

But the two statements are fundamentally different IMHO:

- Shakespeare writes of wisdom which comes in form of doubt. Only the wise men allow doubt into the conversation, hence their stance towards other parties is not aggressive and absolute, but rather flexible.

- The Dunning-Kruger effect, refers to personal biases of two categories.

However, I might be a little over-pedantic here, because comparing a study with a theatrical play can not be done in a straight way :-)


> However, I might be a little over-pedantic here, because comparing a study with a theatrical play can not be done in a straight way :-)

Don't worry, this is HackerNews, discussion among nerds of the highest form. Pedantry is what we do.

I think that while Shakespeare said it more poetically, he is essentially talking about the same thing. Perhaps Dunning-Kruger is more to the point and matter of fact, but it is the same thing. The expert speaks with doubt (because they know that there's so much more to know about a subject), and the fool speaks with certainty (because they do not know).

So maybe Shakespeare is describing half of Dunning-Kruger?


I swear this is HN's favourite bias to bring up on any topic relating to intelligence and aptitude.


Not inappropriate to bring up when the author of the original article is Dunning, though


Personally it brings me comfort to remember that maybe just maybe I'm not as stupid and mediocre as I feel most of the time.


I think the Dunning Kruger effect has been a meme/cultural/conceptual construct long enough (like the measurement of intelligence) that we need to test for a Reverse Dunning Kruger effect, where knowledge of the Dunning Kruger Effect correlates with bias in self evaluation.


Knowing about the Dunning Kruger effect makes me more inclined to ask other people how good I am at something instead of relying on my own opinion. Which I think would make my evaluation more accurate.


Do you really think Michael Jordan needs to ask anyone in order to test his basketball skills? I'm fairly sure he doesn't do that and no matter people (some people) will tell him about this or that players being better, he firmly believe that he could win them in court, in his prime. IMHO Dunning-Kruger effect doesn't work if you reverse the claim.


or it might make you more selective about who you ask for feedback?


would this be a meta-Dunning-Kruger effect? Chosing to ask only people who you know would give you positive feedback?




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