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In All Fairness, Internet Explorer Still Stinks (sitepoint.com)
26 points by nickb on Nov 22, 2007 | hide | past | favorite | 7 comments



Let's not bash IE too much and just write that DAMN web2.0 app shall we?

You chose web to be your platform and you whine? Wuss.

Here's the problem with standard:

First you need to decide whose in

Then you need to have a meeting to talk about the agenda.

Then you need to have another meeting to talk about the next meeting.

Then another meeting to discuss a SINGLE TAG.

Then another meeting to debate about that TAG.

What happen when the consortium decided to move to a different direction? you'll have to rewrite your software.

You'd think all of the members could come at a certain Date/Day?

While I agree that MS might have a hand in sabotaging the standard but hey, they want to move forward faster than the train and they stick to their decision for a very long term.


Meh. Other than the admonition to just go out and develop your app, that's a pretty weak argument.

I'd rather have to tweak my sites when the W3C decides to phase-in a new convention than be forced to do so with every hare-brained browser upgrade that some company does.

Yes, the W3C takes a long time to discuss what casual users think should be trivial. That's largely because they're actually thinking about the semantics and implications of proposed changes, not merely succumbing to feature creep.

Meanwhile, the implication that not all members can make W3C voting meetings is of no consequence whatsoever. If you were so concerned about the direction of HTML or CSS, you could actually get on the appropriate mailing lists and committees. How would you go about convincing IE to, say, drop the concept of "hasLayout" or, for that matter, fix any of the other numerous bugs in their CSS parser?

So yeah, Internet Explorer still sucks. The bureaucracy of the W3C is a complete red herring with respect to that issue.


MS would rather not change their codebase at the expense of market lead than to follow the new standard direction.

They want to decide their own fate.

What makes you think there's definitely ZERO politic in W3C? Semantics? implication of changes? feature creeps? bla bla bla bla bla you'll have Tim Bray.

Quit making feature creeps a big issue please. There are two directions for a software such as IE and Firefox: enhance or die. Enhance means more features. Quit adding features = stagnant = die.

Take 37signals as an example of "Less is More". Have you actually seen their customer complains? 1 million users.. pfftt, I have 2 inactive (free) accounts there. It's good only for about a week before I ditched them for good.


Microsoft really seem to be moving backwards rather than forwards judging from the decision to change the renderer for outlook 2007 from ie to word.


...and it still can't block pop-up ads.


and most of the world still uses it so we have to deal with it. At least its not IE 5...


Please take that down and stop spreading lies.




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