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this is like telling an alcoholic "recovering from alcoholism is simply reducing your level of alcohol intake to a level that isn't harmful." - yes, that's true. however it doesn't fix anything.

obese people are not normal. if "just eat less" was even remotely possible, they would have done it already. the above statement literally adds nothing of value to the situation. there are millions, soon to be billions, of obese people in this world - telling them all to "just eat less" isn't a solution. it's just not.

similarly, some people simply "drink too much" and can easily follow this advice. most alcoholics can't. here's the catch though - those who can just cut down, aren't alcoholics. do you see how this "just do less of X" logic is only descriptive, not prescriptive? there's a big difference.

keto is a specific diet designed to combat a specific kind of overeater, and it is extremely effective at that. it also happens to work for lots of others such as athletes who want to cut fat extremely quickly.

many overweight people are addicted to carbs and processed food, full stop period. because they eat too much carbs, they can not stop eating carbs, which pulls them into an insulin/fat storage/hunger spiral which is extremely, if not impossible, to pull out of. they have to just STOP, but the trick is replacing it with something else that will actually satisfy them.

keto helps with that. it helps direct your eating choices in a sustainable way while returning hormone levels to that of a normal person, preventing the death spiral of hunger and eating. it also satiates hunger and allows people to eat foods they like without feeling deprived, a critical component of long-term success. in short - keto allows you to eat less, or to eat like a normal person. combined with the judgment call that fat is not bad for you per se, it's an amazing way of approaching this problem.

don't forget the human element in dieting. pardon my language but "just eat less!" is worthless advice. utterly, devastatingly, uncompassionately worthless.




> if "just eat less" was even remotely possible, they would have done it already..... - telling them all to "just eat less" isn't a solution. it's just not.

In my experience, this is not true.

Of the hundreds and hundreds of people I watched over many years lose combined thousands of pounds, I estimate somewhere around 75-85% of them had no idea how "calorie dense" some foods are in relation to others. And when I said no idea, I mean not even an inkling of an idea.

I've seen hundreds of grown adults completely jaw-dropping shocked that an massive bowl of salad has the same amount of energy (points in WW speak) as a small piece of chocolate cake.

I've seen them dumbfounded by how much energy is in a "meal" at a fast food joint.

I've seen them argue and think the book is wrong that a piece of meat, or a glass of wine has so much energy in it, but a cucumber or multiple Apples has very little.

Weight loss is a problem of education and understanding.

>it also happens to work for lots of others such as athletes who want to cut fat extremely quickly.

It's interesting you would suggest that the technique you're advocating works well for athletes... you're a Math teacher saying we should teach 6 year-olds Complex Numbers because it works well for Engineering Students. Athletes and people attempting to take the first steps to losing weight and understanding their bodies are not even remotely the same, and it's preposterous they would use the same technique to reach their goals.

(Also note, your incorrect interpretation of what I said shows you yourself are not completely understanding what I'm saying or what you need to do about it. I never once said eat less. In fact, I've seen hundreds of people lose weight by vastly increasing the amount they eat by eating vast mountains of vegetables and some fruit, and eating many, many meals per day. They only need to decrease the amount of energy they're eating, not the raw amount.)



> I've seen hundreds of grown adults completely jaw-dropping shocked that an massive bowl of salad has the same amount of energy (points in WW speak) as a small piece of chocolate cake.

I think this is the most important part. I'm an adult, I have a PhD in Computer Science (not boasting, just saying I felt like I should be on the more educated side of things), and I still massively underestimated the tomato to chocolate cake calorie ratio when challenged to do so.


>>In my experience, this is not true.

Here's an interesting idea: maybe your experience is simply your own and doesn't apply to that many people.

That's why we have science, after all: so that we don't make important health decisions based on some person's "experience."


My experience is Weight Watcher's experience, which I'm going to bet has some of the biggest body of experience about weight loss in the modern world.


I've lost 270 pounds over 2 years by simply eating less as determined by calorie counting, so I think it depends a lot on the person.




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